Can we look to a God instead of a john?

[Bill Wiltrack]

As a love that has matured into a marriage, Organized Labor agreements are the recognized, legal bond of labor, capital, and material/objects in a progressive continuum that is mutually beneficial to all parties involved and to the immediate community as well as the larger society in general.


The deregulation and liberalization of trade and international investment is like dissolving marriage contracts, creating disillusionments or perhaps more correct, creating a forum for one night stands and outright prostitution.


The race to the bottom is literally a moral decision on an individual basis.


A whore, for need of money, will engage in sexual transactions if a john is present and is provided an environment to create the illicit business deal.


Johns frequently shop for price by lowballin the whore just before engagement.


Government is created to protect its citizens and to assist its people in improving their livelihood.


Governments are not created to provide protection and environments that promote immoral and illicit business transactions.


If you don’t believe in government don’t run for office!


Oh yeah, don’t forget condoms like NAFTA or GATT so that the transactions can happen with a certain amount of estrangement, without anyone able to police the immorality.


Sex slaves, child labor, littering…no problem, just leave your trash in our neighborhood and drive away.


No one suffers the effects of your lust except the hooker, the neighborhood you engage your selfishness in and humankind overall.


We venture deeper into the darkness and like an immature addict we create logical excuses as our weakness, our sins, engulf more and more of who we are.


Oh yeah, this is our sickness.


You could distance yourself from the immorality by making a statement like this one from economist Robin Hahnel,


Third World peasants and workers do not enjoy the beneficial effect one might otherwise expect from increased international investment and specialization in labor intensive manufacturing in their countries. -Yeah, that sounds innocent and businesslike.


Or this one, again by Robin Hahnel,


By strengthening the bargaining power of global capital versus any and all with whom it negotiates, liberalization of trade and investment leads to downward pressure on wages, labor standards, and environmental standards in First World and Third World countries.










I have a question for anyone reading this.


Looking into our Armageddon why didn’t we try something that increases morality and living standards; the wonderfully beneficial effects of legal, recognized Organized Labor agreements?




Can we look to a God in the concepts of Organized Labor, instead of a john?

[Jeremiah]

It has been my experience that less people who have their hands in my affairs the easier it is to do my job and much more enjoyable. And America already has laws in place to help ensure a fair work environment I really don't see a need, in my line of work, for any more Organized Restriction groups.

In truth though, I think this whole kick of yours is just you being overzealous. You, seem to me, to be trying to coerce people, into your POV, with this whole rap about "whores".

[Wannabe Yogi]

Originally Posted by Jeremiah

It has been my experience that less people who have their hands in my affairs the easier it is to do my job and much more enjoyable. And America already has laws in place to help ensure a fair work environment I really don't see a need, in my line of work, for any more Organized Restriction groups.

I don't know what your line of work is so I can’t say if your right or not.

The fact is most Americans who are not union members (who are active in their unions) have no idea what unions are about. The folks who work for an employer are the union. They bargain with one voice to come up with a contract and set the rules of employment. I have been a member of 3 different unions in my life. I have also sat down and been a part of many contract negotiations. The union at a place of employment is the workers not an out side agency. A union rep works for the leadership of the local chapter not the other way around. They provide legal help and most of the money used in political work Is used directly for the betterment of the employees. Like mineworkers unions lobbying Washington for safer working conditions.

The facts are there is less racial discrimination and pay is better in a union shop.

[Jeremiah]

Originally Posted by Wannabe Yogi

I don't know what your line of work is so I can’t say if your right or not.

The fact is most Americans who are not union members (who are active in their unions) have no idea what unions are about. The folks who work for an employer are the union. They bargain with one voice to come up with a contract and set the rules of employment. I have been a member of 3 different unions in my life. I have also sat down and been a part of many contract negotiations. The union at a place of employment is the workers not an out side agency. A union rep works for the leadership of the local chapter not the other way around. They provide legal help and most of the money used in political work Is used directly for the betterment of the employees. Like mineworkers unions lobbying Washington for safer working conditions.

The facts are there is less racial discrimination and pay is better in a union shop.

That's nice and all, but comparing a non-union worker to a whore is still coercion, in my mind. I certainly have nothing against a union worker and when needed a union but a union is not always needed and it is certainly not a religion.

[Wannabe Yogi]

Originally Posted by Jeremiah

That's nice and all, but comparing a non-union worker to a whore is still coercion, in my mind. I certainly have nothing against a union worker and when needed a union but a union is not always needed and it is certainly not a religion.

I agree.

[Mr Cheese]

this thread is about trade unions versus God?

[linwood]

Originally Posted by Mr Cheese

this thread is about trade unions versus God?

God better be careful.

He could end up with his kneecaps busted.

[Mr Cheese]

Originally Posted by linwood

God better be careful.

He could end up with his kneecaps busted.

God coulda been a contender....

[Wandered Off]

Sounds as if what we really need is a union for prostitutes. But what to call it???
*rubs hands together gleefully*

[Bill Wiltrack]

My original post is an allegory.

It is interesting to see the interpretations that I did not expect!

In all of my posts I work to associate Organized Labor with the characteristics of organized religion instead of with organized crime.



Free, independent, legally recognized Organized Labor Agreements are successfully negotiated thousands of times worldwide to the benefit of all three parties and to their immediate community. Organized Labor supports and compliments government, especially liberal democracies. Organized Labor assists all governments and cultures in promoting a rich, stable society that is able to support higher education, the arts and moral purpose in freedom of religious beliefs. Organized Labor Agreements are extremely responsive to economic changes and represent one of the purest forms of liberal democracy and humanistic approach to problem solving as they enrich all individuals, their community, and individual liberty in a continually rising level of worldwide economic and humanistic evolution.


I know a god of acceptance, understanding, in a brotherhood that knows no bounds.


Thank you all for replying to my original post.