What Is The "Traditional Family", And How Is It Under Attack?

[Smoke]

Originally Posted by Watchmen

I don't get the example. I'm not aware of a church of white Christians that does not allow black people to join.

Not anymore, no. But there were Protestant churches in my lifetime that made it clear to black people that they were not welcome, just as there are churches today that say they accept gay people, but make it clear to gay people who visit that they're not really welcome.

I remember when I was in high school, a couple attending the local Bible college brought a fellow student with them to church once, a dark-skinned East Indian man. The old ladies fairly swarmed them after the service, telling them in no uncertain terms not to bring their "black" friend back again.

And I'm sure you can think of a church that allowed black members, but excluded them from the priesthood up until about thirty years ago.

[Jeremiah]

Originally Posted by J Bryson

Again and again, usually whenever the subjects of gay marriage and gay adoption come up, there are those who will state that the concept of the "traditional family" is under attack in America.

I therefore have a few simple questions:

What is a "traditional family"?

How is it under attack? Use examples.

What do you suggest we do about the situation?

'What is a "traditional family"?'

Control.

"How is it under attack?"

It's not, the colloquial expression, "under attack" is another method of control.

[Jeremiah]

Originally Posted by Watchmen

From the LDS perspective, marriage was instituted by God from the Beginning and is part of His Plan for all his children to become like Him. God's marriage is between a man and woman (or women when specifically authorized by God). Allowing homosexual marriage perverts God's design and His Plan and the sacred institution he organized for our benefit.

Personally, I do not believe the civil marriages we have today are the same as the marriage God implemented. Indeed, I believe the only place to be married as God intended is in an LDS temple. So long as homosexual marriage does not threaten the LDS temple, I have no problem with civil marriages between homosexuals.

" Allowing homosexual marriage perverts God's design and His Plan and the sacred institution he organized for our benefit."

Not much of an omnipotent being if a few homosexuals can "pervert" His "plans" and/or "design".

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by Jeremiah

Not much of an omnipotent being if a few homosexuals can "pervert" His "plans" and/or "design".

I agree.

I have asked more than once on this forum why an all powerful deity is helpless without his devoted flock of followers.

[3.14]

because if he had to do all the work himself then whats the point of being omnipotent

[J Bryson]

Originally Posted by 3.14

because if he had to do all the work himself then whats the point of being omnipotent

I would think that a nice side benefit of omnipotence is that you could do all of the work yourself without having to worry about possible errors.

[3.14]

but why worry about errors, its not like you wouldn't be able to correct them, though i dub people could create errors big enough to bother an omnipotant being with

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by 3.14

but why worry about errors, its not like you wouldn't be able to correct them, though i dub people could create errors big enough to bother an omnipotant being with

Not according to some of said deities followers.
According to them, merely having sex before you are married will completely destroy the plans of their deity.
and if that premarital sex is between a gay couple...Gods plans go right down the toilet!!!
Not to mention the havoc caused by abortion.
And euthanasia
Women being allowed to vote....

[Watchmen]

Originally Posted by Smoke

Not anymore, no. But there were Protestant churches in my lifetime that made it clear to black people that they were not welcome, just as there are churches today that say they accept gay people, but make it clear to gay people who visit that they're not really welcome.

I remember when I was in high school, a couple attending the local Bible college brought a fellow student with them to church once, a dark-skinned East Indian man. The old ladies fairly swarmed them after the service, telling them in no uncertain terms not to bring their "black" friend back again.

And I'm sure you can think of a church that allowed black members, but excluded them from the priesthood up until about thirty years ago.

This isn't the thread for it, so I'll refrain.

[Watchmen]

Originally Posted by Jeremiah

" Allowing homosexual marriage perverts God's design and His Plan and the sacred institution he organized for our benefit."

Not much of an omnipotent being if a few homosexuals can "pervert" His "plans" and/or "design".

You obviously misunderstand. Might I suggest you get a dictionary?