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Old 07-10-2009, 04:33 PM
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The Absolute is advaita, non-dual. Another way to understand it is that the Absolute transcends relative duality. If what we call good and what we call evil are entities in themselves, then both exist in (or as characteristics of) the Absolute, yet for the Absolute, they are one and not two.
A more Vaisnava way to put it might be to say that God's love and God's enmity are non-different. Although one can make a superficial assessment of these typically opposite attitudes, for God they constitute the one and the same transcendental personality.
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:58 PM
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The Absolute is advaita, non-dual. Another way to understand it is that the Absolute transcends relative duality. If what we call good and what we call evil are entities in themselves, then both exist in (or as characteristics of) the Absolute, yet for the Absolute, they are one and not two.
A more Vaisnava way to put it might be to say that God's love and God's enmity are non-different. Although one can make a superficial assessment of these typically opposite attitudes, for God they constitute the one and the same transcendental personality.
Considered, well thought-out, and well-said.

And completely wasted here.

V.D. will completely dismiss this on his usual basis of absolutely nothing.
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Considered, well thought-out, and well-said.

And completely wasted here.

V.D. will completely dismiss this on his usual basis of absolutely nothing.
I hope not. At least this is a public forum and not a private discourse between V.D. and myself. I mean, after all, you're here and you at least found my response to be well thought-out and well-said. So not all is lost.
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I hope not. At least this is a public forum and not a private discourse between V.D. and myself. I mean, after all, you're here and you at least found my response to be well thought-out and well-said. So not all is lost.
Wait'll V.D. replies.
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To understand what JESUS said is to read everything he said. You and the rest of the greek mthylogical science worshipers don't believe everything JESUS said, and are therefore calling JESUS a LIAR.
You have to prove first that it was actually Jesus who said them, and not someone else.

Besides, much of what Jesus said is lost forever to time.
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Don't worry your IQ of nonsense won't be affected as long as you contniue to oppose my Truth.

This is a strangely comforting sentiment...

You have clearly shown your dis-believe in GOD

GOD is absolute...

I actually believe in God; I just believe that God is a part of this universe...

The fact that your metal capacity is limited proves the opposite can exist.

Infinity exists...

Perfection exists...

GOD is perfect and again you have demonstrated your ill conceived notion of Universal physics.

So the fact that imperfection exists proves that perfection exists? Transitional states and oppositional states are not the same thing. Somewhere between Nothing and Perfection lay imperfection. Imperfection and Perfection are not opposites. Your argument amounts to because color exists red must exist. That is not a logically valid conclusion nor empirically justified (in a world of purely blue light the color red would not exist).

Find me infinity. Find me perfection. God is perfect, yes. The rest of your nonsense is predicated on an ill-conceived cosmology that is contradictory with our own.


You are lost...

The Universe by your own account has no limitations therewith its infinite, infinitely perfect. That you cannot understand that infinity is perfection you can never understand anything... You have ZERO understanding of creation... ZERO understanding of the CREATOR

I am lost? You couldn't find yourself on a map with a compass and GPS. The universe by my own account has no limitations? Which part of my account exactly entails the universe having no limit? I understand that infinity is perfection, but what you don't seem to understand is that Perfection is DEFINITIONALLY separate from existence. Perfection must be superior to everything and that includes "mere" existence.

Perfection exists apart from the universe. It is beyond existence, beyond truth, beyond measure, beyond knowledge! And until you understand and accept this you will understand NOTHING.

Until you understand and accept absolutes, you understand NOTHING!!!
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