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Old 06-02-2009, 09:11 AM
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God does not need anything at all. reasons are not because of God, reasons are in people. people tend to believe, they own this or that. we think we have things and whatever we have belongs to us. but nothing belongs to us not even ourselves. owning things is an illusion. sacrifice is knowingly giving up what we think we have.
I thought the above bolded would lead to some interesting discussion but I didn't want to drag the thread I found it in off-topic.

I'm looking to focus this discussion on the idea that we "cannot own ourselves". Do you think this is true? Why or why not? If not then who can/does "own ourselves" or does no one "own" and it isn't even a matter of ownership? If we can "own ourselves" do we always have that ownership or is it possible to lose it somehow? Are there parts of ourselves that we own and parts that we don't? And any other thoughts you may have are welcome also, but those questions should be anough for starters.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:16 AM
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:17 AM
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:27 AM
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I'm looking to focus this discussion on the idea that we "cannot own ourselves". Do you think this is true? Why or why not?
I can see how it is assertable. Some religious philosophy has it that there is no "self", more accurately no self-thing that is separate and distinct from the universe-thing, and that is capable of acting upon it and being acted upon. We are the universe. Our actions are the universe acting, our thoughts are the universe thinking. What we regard as "ourself" is a product of perspective/illusion. The very idea that there is something to "own" other things is bundled up in the same illusion.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:52 AM
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I can see how it is assertable. Some religious philosophy has it that there is no "self", more accurately no self-thing that is separate and distinct from the universe-thing, and that is capable of acting upon it and being acted upon. We are the universe. Our actions are the universe acting, our thoughts are the universe thinking. What we regard as "ourself" is a product of perspective/illusion. The very idea that there is something to "own" other things is bundled up in the same illusion.
um yeah, what she said.
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