Religious question on Satan

[zenzero]

Friend BalanceX,
Simple put. The mind that eacxh one has is his own Satan which is the barrier to be broken to merge with god.
God and satan are both dualities.
If we create one the other is around by default.
How smart is satan?
that depend on how smart your own mind is.
Love & rgds

[BalanceFx]

Originally Posted by zenzero

Friend BalanceX,
Simple put. The mind that eacxh one has is his own Satan which is the barrier to be broken to merge with god.
God and satan are both dualities.
If we create one the other is around by default.
How smart is satan?
that depend on how smart your own mind is.
Love 7 rgds

Interesting perspective.

[.lava]

Originally Posted by BalanceFx

How intelligent is Satan? More then humans? This is really a personal question as I consider satan to be fiction and he could be as smart as we want him to be. But some of you really believe in god and satan.

So how smart do you think he is?

He wants to lead us astray? He wants us to turn away from the true god? He predates all of the prophets... was here before jesus... certainly before the bible.

What if his plan is to create the god you believe in and the texts and ideas... what if he does talk to people in exactly the way they would expect. He's crafty right? Tricky? Evil? What if he created this vague uncertainity for seperation... to stir wars and intolerance. To spread his purpose and to lead people astray.

Just an idea I heard. Some superpowerful, evil, highly beyond human capacity intelligent with supernatural powers and a master of trickery... seems like this is something he could pull off.

hi,

my answer is 'yes'. satan is very smart. satan (the leader of all jinn demons and human demons) does not try to trick people like us. he is busy with some other issues. bigger issues. demons who trick people are his soldiers. they are not identical. they are like people. some smarter, some stronger, some ignorant...etc.

in Noble Qur'an, God says humans and jinns were created to serve. they would be judged too. they would earn hell or heaven too...which means they have intellect and free will.

55:39 On that Day no question will be asked of man or Jinn as to his sin

46:29 Behold, We turned towards thee a company of Jinns (quietly) listening to the Qur-an: when they stood in the presence thereof, they said, "Listen in silence!" when the (reading) was finished, they returned to their people, to warn (them of their sins).

[DallasApple]

Satan is as smart as we lend it to him.(he depends on us).Other than that..He's not smart at all..He's actually pretty dumb..

Love

Dallas

[BalanceFx]

Originally Posted by .lava

hi,

my answer is 'yes'. satan is very smart. satan (the leader of all jinn demons and human demons) does not try to trick people like us. he is busy with some other issues. bigger issues. demons who trick people are his soldiers. they are not identical. they are like people. some smarter, some stronger, some ignorant...etc.

in Noble Qur'an, God says humans and jinns were created to serve. they would be judged too. they would earn hell or heaven too...which means they have intellect and free will.

55:39 On that Day no question will be asked of man or Jinn as to his sin

46:29 Behold, We turned towards thee a company of Jinns (quietly) listening to the Qur-an: when they stood in the presence thereof, they said, "Listen in silence!" when the (reading) was finished, they returned to their people, to warn (them of their sins).

I dont believe in demons, gods, satan or really anything supernatural... However isn't it Djinn and not Jinn?

I may be confused... what is Jinn in reference too?

[.lava]

Originally Posted by BalanceFx

I dont believe in demons, gods, satan or really anything supernatural... However isn't it Djinn and not Jinn?

I may be confused... what is Jinn in reference too?

supernatural...i do not really use that term much. what about metaphysics and dimensions? do you believe they exist?

it is ok to say djinn. ok to use all of these names below as well;
jinn, jinni, djin, djinn, djinni, genie, demon, sprite, evil spirit

[BalanceFx]

Originally Posted by .lava

supernatural...i do not really use that term much. what about metaphysics and dimensions? do you believe they exist?

it is ok to say djinn. ok to use all of these names below as well;
jinn, jinni, djin, djinn, djinni, genie, demon, sprite, evil spirit

Aye, but are they not supernatural? Elaborate on what you mean by metaphysics and dimensions... ontology perhaps?

Whatever you call your evil, good or neutral spirits...... I dont belive in them.

[.lava]

Originally Posted by BalanceFx

Aye, but are they not supernatural? Elaborate on what you mean by metaphysics and dimensions... ontology perhaps?

Whatever you call your evil, good or neutral spirits...... I dont belive in them.

metaphysics is mainly 'unseen' which means you do not see it with physical eyes. djinns could not be seen by physical eyes either. because they are not physical creatures.

i do believe they exist. they live in 5th dimension which is right here. dimensions are in each other and are separated from each other in the same spot. border in between is getting thinner. people start seeing them more often then usual.


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[BalanceFx]

Originally Posted by .lava

metaphysics is mainly 'unseen' which means you do not see it with physical eyes. djinns could not be seen by physical eyes either. because they are not physical creatures.

i do believe they exist. they live in 5th dimension which is right here. dimensions are in each other and are separated from each other in the same spot. border in between is getting thinner. people start seeing them more often then usual.
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Have you read The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan? I highly reccomend it.

[logician]

Originally Posted by Charity

It's your choice

It' s my choice if satan exists? The supposed god should be doing these tasks.