christians muslims and jews

[BruceDLimber]

Greetings!

Originally Posted by chaos

i am looking for anyone who studies/follows the religions of judaism, christianity, or islam.

Great!

Then I suggest you ask the Baha'is as we recognize and revere all three of these God-sent faiths, while following our own scriptures!

Best, :-)

Bruce

[Harmonious]

Originally Posted by tariqkhwaja

I didn't say it was literal. The point was that there was no emphasis on forgiveness. I do not know any Christian who would give their shirt either (though its worth a try). But I guess you get the point.

Actually, there is a SERIOUS emphasis on forgiveness in Judaism. It just doesn't appear where you might expect it to be.

Judaism doesn't come from the angle of "Everyone needs to be forgiven," but deals with each problem on a case by case basis.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by Harmonious

Interesting concept.

But I don't know if you are aware that the Jewish concept of "eye for an eye" was never meant to be literal. Ever.

And then can we all agree, that Israel was 'never meant to be literal. Ever."

Meaning; the book said so but look at what is occurring all over the world because of it.

If a person took out another person's eye, a calculation was made for monetary damages to give the victim. The literal eye of the person who committed the act in the first place stayed in tact.

So Israel never left you, it is in your heart; why are people dying for a piece of desert?

[tariqkhwaja]

Proof Harmonious. Please present some evidence. I would be most interested in seeing verses in Judaism that speak of forgiveness towards other human beings for their mistakes.

[Jayhawker Soule]

"It is forbidden to be obdurate and not allow yourself to be appeased. On the contrary, one should be easily pacified and find it difficult to become angry. When asked by an offender for forgiveness, one should forgive with a sincere mind and a willing spirit. . . forgiveness is natural to the seed of Israel." (Mishneh Torah, Teshuvah 2:10)

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by Jayhawker Soule

"It is forbidden to be obdurate and not allow yourself to be appeased. On the contrary, one should be easily pacified and find it difficult to become angry. When asked by an offender for forgiveness, one should forgive with a sincere mind and a willing spirit. . . forgiveness is natural to the seed of Israel." (Mishneh Torah, Teshuvah 2:10)

apophatic sect of Judaism.

based on a Egyptian style of jewish observance

quite similar to the coptics rendition of christianity

a diverse branch with a whole different frame of belief structures

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

apophatic sect of Judaism.

You really haven't a clue what you're talking about. Please pollute some other thread.

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Have you read the Quran before?

I ... guess .. so why asking?

What three opinions you are talking about?

Nothing tangible only the words written by people.

have you seen a martian? Did the martians plant the seeds of mankind on earth? [/quote]

Can you see your mind?

that the quran shares a new beginning after Gog and Mogog (the brother) begin the war. There is a whole judgment coming. Pretty much the same as in the OT.

Are you aware of the revelations within the quran?

what happen to 'remembering' the whole book?

Either we are speaking two different languages right now or i have no clue of what you are talking about!

What is the relationship between "remembering the whole book thing" and Gog and Mogog, OT, etc?

[Harmonious]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

And then can we all agree, that Israel was 'never meant to be literal. Ever."

Meaning; the book said so but look at what is occurring all over the world because of it.

Hmm. I wouldn't say that. But I WOULD say that you can never take the simple meaning of what happens in the OT for granted, either.

In a weird fashion, I guess the answer might be yes. You might find it interesting to know that "not putting a stumbling block before the blind" is only one of many applications of the law.

You might be intrigued with how the concept of the Rebellious Child was NEVER prosecuted, in the entirety of the time that Jews had a Capital Judicial System.

As a matter of fact, if you only look to the text of the OT, you would miss all of the mercy and mitigating circumstances that were built into Jewish law. So, yeah, it isn't too far of a stretch to say that "you can't take it literally." There is far more behind every law, and behind every story that if you only take the Bible text, you are almost entirely missing the point.

I do hope you realize that what is written in the Five Books of Moses is only a VERY SMALL PART of the Jewish legal system.

At least one sixth of the Talmud is devoted to describing damages, and how to recompense people who have lost all kinds of things.

So Israel never left you, it is in your heart;

Actually, it defines my very person. But you're close.

why are people dying for a piece of desert?

Because it is a land that God gave the People of Israel.

But somehow, I doubt you are looking for that type of answer.