When does it end.

[tariqkhwaja]

You are defending an idea, not necessarily an actuality...To defend an idea is silly, really.

No, not necessarily. But that is it you see?
Will God punish me for:
1. Honestly believing for some reason in the wrong path (because of my human limitation) and trying my best to show somebody what I believe is the right thing to do OR
2. Honestly believing for some reason in the wrong path and just sitting there and watch others follow a different path believing it is hell-bound.

On the day of Judgement I need not fear punishment even if I am on the wrong path and trying to bring others to that path ... as long as I was doing it in honesty and out of God's love and love for His creation.

[Guitar's Cry]

I think people need to relax and share more beer together.

[tariqkhwaja]

ps. if a person never knew of hell would he go to it aswell?
doesn't that mean you are giving him a 50% chance to go to hell instead of a 100% chance not to go to hell?

Good question? Many think that way.
But that is like not giving knowledge to people lest they use it in a wrong way. It is like saying lets not invest in nuclear theory of Physics lest people make more bombs. Whether people are honest or not to accept the truth and reject falsehood should not stop one from revealing the truth.

[logician]

Originally Posted by tariqkhwaja

Good question? Many think that way.
But that is like not giving knowledge to people lest they use it in a wrong way. It is like saying lets not invest in nuclear theory of Physics lest people make more bombs. Whether people are honest or not to accept the truth and reject falsehood should not stop one from revealing the truth.

Whose truth?

[gnomon]

Originally Posted by CalebAB

When is the human race going to realize that intolorence of one anothers religions is going to lead to our ultimate downfall? Why cant everyone just agree to disagree about their perspective beliefs. I'm all for the general religious discussion, but there is a line that souldnt be crossed. you can talk about religion and not offended if you keep your mind open. you dont have to believe in everything some one is saying to take somthing valuable from them.

It will end when the human species is extinct.

[Riverwolf]

Originally Posted by Da Troof

It ends when all religious people accept that they believe utter nonsense and accept that there is NO GOD & NO AFTERLIFE

Dude, there's no way to know that. There's absolutely no way for you to know for sure whether there's an afterlife or not. Have you died and seen it or something? And it won't end there. People will always have something to disagree on. So basically, what I'm saying is, it will never end. Humans are a warrior race. It's in our blood to be competitive. Think about it. We who see the futility of war will still try to get our message across to people, and those who favor war will view them as cowards and idiots, while those who don't favor war will view those who do as barbaric and bloodthirsty. So it doesn't matter. It is a nightmare that will never end, but it's only a nightmare if you view it as such. I try to take a cue from the Samurai and feudal Japan, or better yet, the Klingons. Sure, they're bloodthirsty, but at least they admit it, and they are ritualistic and honorable; they would never do many of the cowardly things I've seen denying terrorists, including the US government, mind you, doing, like bombing civilians.

[gnomon]

Originally Posted by gnomon

It will end when the human species is extinct.

How cynical of you(me).

I think that even if there were one world religion, or no religion at all, world peace would still elude us. The animosity between human beings holds very much to a natural instinct and that other cultural variables often play a more prominent role in conflicts than religious differences.

But...I should at least acknowledge that a universal philosophical ideal would probably go a long way in reducing the level of animosity amongst ourselves.

[autonomous1one1]

Originally Posted by CalebAB

When is the human race going to realize that intolorence of one anothers religions is going to lead to our ultimate downfall? .....

Greetings CalebAB. Many feel that the dominance of the ego within most of our beings is the root cause of this intolerance. Surely if we all lived true to our religion (love from Christ for example) we might be able to avoid the downfall. The solution that receives my dedication falls along the lines of that of Eckhart Tolle (and others at this time). Let me quote from his writing about developing his book, A New Earth:

"..But there was also an added sense of urgency, a realization that what the planet and humanity need most is a shift in consciousness, a spiritual awakening. Without it, we perpetuate the insanity of the past (which we can see most clearly in the history of the 20th century) or, at best, we only treat the symptoms of the disease, not the underlying cause. The disease, of course, is the collective dysfunction of the egoic mind."

Awakening, which is beginning to bloom, is a solution. (Eckhart's full message about writing his book can be found at: An Invitation from Eckhart Tolle)