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Old 06-15-2008, 02:22 PM
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Default Men Murder Their Babies..

Men are instrumental in impregnating women...

They are murderers because they tell their girfriends and wives they should have an abortion and if they dont not to count on them for any involvement in the childs life...

Men are murderers because they are not willing to adopt the baby themselves if the mother isnt willing to have it....Men are murderers for paying or helping pay for the "procedure".....

Men murder their children..

Men should have visectomies and or keep it in their pants so women don't have to murder babies..(with the fathers encouragement and "blessings")

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Old 06-15-2008, 02:34 PM
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Men are instrumental in impregnating women...

They are murderers because they tell their girfriends and wives they should have an abortion and if they dont not to count on them for any involvement in the childs life...

Men are murderers because they are not willing to adopt the baby themselves if the mother isnt willing to have it....Men are murderers for paying or helping pay for the "procedure".....

Men murder their children..

Men should have visectomies and or keep it in their pants so women don't have to murder babies..(with the fathers encouragement and "blessings")

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Old 06-15-2008, 02:44 PM
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Erm...

It takes two to tango.
Thats my point..

But women are the ones called murderers..mothers of dead babies and on and on..

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Old 06-15-2008, 02:53 PM
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MEN(most)...arent willing to have pregnant wives or girfriends that the baby is going to be "given away for adoption"...

Ask them...Have a man tell the world...my wife is pregnant but WE cant afford to take care of another child so WE are giving the baby up for adoption..

Name ONE married or single man you know who has done that..Told his family his friends..Im GIVING away MY child...

Now..in reverse HOW many women have announced that?...I'm PUTIING my baby up for adoption..

It does take two...But the mother is the one with the back bone...Most times when it comes to giving the baby away...She is the one to face the music...NOT the man..

She is the one that has to answer the questions..

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Thats my point..

But women are the ones called murderers..mothers of dead babies and on and on..
Yes but by whom? Is the problem that people are being judged without compassion? Or is it that said judgement isn't being applied universally?
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I know I don't go on these debates what so ever, but I have a situation with my sister. My half sister is or was a college student. She met someone at her 21st birthday party and well, things got heavy. Next thing you know, she is calling me crying because she is pregnant. She couldn't talk to her parents because they were on vacation in the Philippines. I was unable to be there at the time for her because she is 8 hours away but I was there for her phone wise. She told me everything like this guy being married, in the marines, has a child and she just recently found out that he has another child on the way with his wife. Halcyon is correct. It takes two to tango from conceiving to what ever decision has to be made. She stated she still had her whole life to think about and that she still needs to finish school and be able to hang out with her friends. She was thinking about abortion because she didn't want or was unable to handle a child since it will take the fun out of her life or partying. The babies father was moving back to Arizona and my half sister lives in North Carolina. He wanted her to give up the child because of what she stated and also because of his life situation.

My half sister decided to keep the child since she has changed her mind and now she feels that she can raise this child without anyones help. She states that she can prove to everyone that she can do it. I know my sister. She is not one to be able to handle a child. She is not one to hold a job or even stay in college. She is one of those that will get her self kicked out of college dorms, fail in her classes, drop out of classes, party almost everynight, do drugs and drink alcohol, not have money to pay for gas or food, even though her parents put money in the bank for her. She was never a responsible person. She always lies constantly even up to now. This has all been since she was 13.

What do you do in situations like these? Her parents are catholic but they just could't take it anymore. The things that she has done and is doing, made them doubt their own daughter. Her grandparents from her step-fathers side are the once that said to keep the child because if she gets an abortion, they "will loose all respect" for her. Her parents are just not able to be responsible anymore. Her step-father is very sick and has not worked and won't be able to go back to work. My step-mother is the only one bringing in the income working 2 jobs just to pay off my sisters loans and rent so that my sister can stay somewhere 3 hours away so she can finish school that she is not even attending.
My sister won't come back home because she wants to stay where she is but is unable to keep the place she is staying at. She is no longer under her parents insurance since her parents finally found out that she dropped out of school. But she says she is still attending.

I think I will end it here because, abortion was in my mind when she had told me she was pregnant and it is still in my mind. But I can't do anything about it or was I able to do anything about it. I did not recommend or suggested to her to have an abortion. I don't believe in abortion unless abortion is needed. Like health wise or financially if one is not willing to give up the child for adoption.
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Yes but by whom? Is the problem that people are being judged without compassion? Or is it that said judgement isn't being applied universally?
The latter I believe.

One shouldnt judge without compassion but then one shouldnt shirk from ones responsibilities either.

A compromise or other solution is needed.
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its simple womans get added rights to newborns so also the added responsibilaty,

if a woman wants to keep the baby there is nothing the men can do about it, might be a bit more tricky for the woman but even if the men insists on an abortion and the woman refuses the baby will be born. so in fact it is the fault of woman who kill them because there not determind enough.
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I am sorry you are struggling with this. My oldest sounds a lot like your sister. My oldest is now 30. She really just does what ever she wants, and goes to extremes to get it. I don't really know if there is anything in this world she has not done to get her own way. She had a daughter when she was 18. We were no longer supporting or enabling her life style. It was incredibly difficult to know about. My other daughter and her husband began the adoption process when my GD was 3. Then we had a lucky break. The father stepped up and said, this is my daughter and I will care for her. He has. It has been a long way from what I would want for her- but she is a tough little girl with a great personality. I am fortunate she is part of my life. I love her. But... when my oldest turns up pregnant periodically from some one or another, I am not sorry when she terminates the pregnancy. I hope I am not sorry because I would never want another person to have that childhood. I hope I am not so selfish that I am avoiding the sorrow for myself. I don't know.
I will keep you in my thoughts. What happened for my granddaughter was luckier than most of these situations. But, maybe your sister will step up and be a great mom. I hope so.
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