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Old 06-16-2008, 12:48 PM
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Men are instrumental in impregnating women...

They are murderers because they tell their girfriends and wives they should have an abortion and if they dont not to count on them for any involvement in the childs life...

Men are murderers because they are not willing to adopt the baby themselves if the mother isnt willing to have it....Men are murderers for paying or helping pay for the "procedure".....

Men murder their children..

Men should have visectomies and or keep it in their pants so women don't have to murder babies..(with the fathers encouragement and "blessings")

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The thing is it is the woman's choice to have the child or not. I mean if the woman wants to and the man doesn't should he be obliged to help with upkeep? What if the man wants to keep it and the woman doesn't? Anyway abortion isn't murder in any way shape or form. Or is killing any sort of organism murder?
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Old 06-16-2008, 12:51 PM
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The thing is it is the woman's choice to have the child or not. I mean if the woman wants to and the man doesn't should he be obliged to help with upkeep? What if the man wants to keep it and the woman doesn't? Anyway abortion isn't murder in any way shape or form. Or is killing any sort of organism murder?

Your missing my point..But yes...if the woman wants to keep the child he should be "obligated" with the "upkeep".Why shouldnt he?

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Old 06-16-2008, 12:54 PM
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Your missing my point..But yes...if the woman wants to keep the child he should be "obligated" with the "upkeep".Why shouldnt he?

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A man has no legal say in if the child is kept or not. Why should he have a legal responsibility? If the mother has the child knowing full well she does not have the fathers support then she should expect nothing from him. It is different if the fathers say he will support and bales out later when there is already a kid.
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The thing is it is the woman's choice to have the child or not
Its a womans "choice" to carry a child to full term and deilver or not...If she choses to deliver..He is responsible for that child as much as she is..Its his legal and moral obligation..

Having a child entails many many many years of dedication and financial support..The child is innocent..The father in question should not walk away and say its her responsibility alone because she did not abort or give the baby to someone else.....they BOTH had sex together...they both are responsible..

This is sick...and its real personal to me...My little 8 week old grandbaby that I was cuddling here with last night...My son had tried to convince my DIL(his girlfreind) to abort ..She was NOT going to do it..His Name is Elliott Matthew..My son calls him 'monkey"...They are poor as poppers..Its not easy...but my son KNOWS now that there is a baby here...HE is responsible in the care of this child..

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Old 06-16-2008, 01:11 PM
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A man has no legal say in if the child is kept or not. Why should he have a legal responsibility?
BECAUSE you were aware of the laws BEFORE you engaged in sex posibbly resulting in a child..

If you dont want the burden of the possilbe result???..Do NOT have sex ....

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A man has no legal say in if the child is kept or not. Why should he have a legal responsibility? If the mother has the child knowing full well she does not have the fathers support then she should expect nothing from him. It is different if the fathers say he will support and bales out later when there is already a kid.
Yes you have LEGAL say..you have the legal RIGHT to consent to sex or not..

Got that?

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My son is responsible legally and morally for this baby...As much as his girlfriend is...If he didnt want to be he should have kept his zipper up...

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What if it were the case that the father wanted to keep the child but the mother wanted to abort?

Do you think the father has the right to force the mother to carry the child to term, and then say that she is also responsible for helping to raise it?
Assuming you don't think that is fair, how is it different with the sexes reversed?
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What if it were the case that the father wanted to keep the child but the mother wanted to abort?

Do you think the father has the right to force the mother to carry the child to term, and then say that she is also responsible for helping to raise