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Old 05-28-2008, 01:21 PM
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It's a good question, FH. I'm guesing those sites must be full of fearful people insecure in their faith.
Maybe the historical Christian Faith is based on historical shared creeds and confessions of the Christian Faith? Within the historical Christian Faith, Mormonism is considered a cult (not used as a negative definition). The word cult when correctly defined should be received by LDS Christians.

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Old 05-28-2008, 01:22 PM
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  • John 15:19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
  • This is good since you seem to hate her. Sad really, that your religion is defined by exclusion.
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  • 1 John 2:15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
  • I don't think she loves your worldliness, though I know for a fact she loves you.
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  • 1 John 3:1 How great is the love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him.
  • So, this is why you can't see the real love on this site? That is simply fascinating.
It is good to note that modern day Pharisees will spend an inordinate amount of time telling everyone else why they are not a part of the body. They completely miss Jesus' favorite OT passage: I desire mercy and not sacrifice.

Galatians 5:14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.NIV

Stop biting other Christians! It's not scriptural and it does more harm than good.
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Maybe the historical Christian Faith is based on historical shared creeds and confessions of the Christian Faith? Within the historical Christian Faith, Mormonism is considered a cult (not used as a negative definition). The word cult when correctly defined should be received by LDS Christians.
Did you mean cult or sect?
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Old 05-28-2008, 01:32 PM
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This is good since you seem to hate her. Sad really, that your religion is defined by exclusion.[/list]I don't think she loves your worldliness, though I know for a fact she loves you.[/list]So, this is why you can't see the real love on this site? That is simply fascinating.[/list]It is good to note that modern day Pharisees will spend an inordinate amount of time telling everyone else why they are not a part of the body. They completely miss Jesus' favorite OT passage: I desire mercy and not sacrifice.

Galatians 5:14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.NIV

Stop biting other Christians! It's not scriptural and it does more harm than good.
Why don't you particpate on an all Christian forum site and see how well you are received? Start by sharing your view that Mormons are your brothers and sisters in Christ and see what happens. Then share your unorthodox view of the Scriptures. Please let us know what happens. We are called to speak the truth in love for our love for God, and the sake of others.
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Then share your unorthodox view of the Scriptures. Please let us know what happens. We are called to speak the truth in love for our love for God, and the sake of others.
Perhaps Katzpur and Pete speak the truth of God in the best way they know how. I welcome their perspectives as much as I welcome yours.
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Why don't you particpate on an all Christian forum site and see how well you are received? Start by sharing your view that Mormons are your brothers and sisters in Christ and see what happens. Then share your unorthodox view of the Scriptures. Please let us know what happens. We are called to speak the truth in love for our love for God, and the sake of others.
Yikes - you mean there are whole forum sites filled with people being meanies for the "sake of others"? No thanks. And given the choice, I think I'd rather visit Katzpur's church.
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Yikes - you mean there are whole forum sites filled with people being meanies for the "sake of others"? No thanks. And given the choice, I think I'd rather visit Katzpur's church.
Could it be that the offense of the cross is not preached at Katzpur's LDS Church? Why does it appear the world (this site) seem to receive the Mormons on this site with open arms?

1 Corinthians 1:18:

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
  1. John 7:7 (Whole Chapter)
    The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify that what it does is evil.
  2. John 12:25 (Whole Chapter)
    The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
  3. John 15:18 (Whole Chapter)
    [ The World Hates the Disciples ] "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.
  4. John 15:19 (Whole Chapter)
    If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
  5. 1 John 3:13 (Whole Chapter)
    Do not be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you.

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Could it be that the offense of the cross is not preached at Katzpur's church?
Somehow, I feel confident that your church is way better at being offensive than Katzpur's church. I take it you consider that a good thing.

Katzpur's church holds no appeal for me, in part because the leadership is virulently anti-gay even if many of the members aren't. But I must say I prefer their patient and longsuffering god to the wrathful monster many Christians seem to worship.
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