The Sun Shines With GOD'S Light. (Earth, God, Lord, verse)

[Frank Castle]

This is absolute truth and it cannot be disputed by anyone with or without a science
degrees, the Sun doesn't have hydrogen gas or liquid in it, the Sun doesn't fuse atoms
to create energy either, its GOD'S light.

1) Nowhere on earth can you find hydrogen gas, liquid or solid, you must separate
hydrogen atoms from water, dead biological materials and natural gas molecules,
were in this universe of yours do you find these materials?

2) Science says the Sun is mostly hydrogen in the form of a gas, but to make it a
gas you have to extract it from the element its bond to, how and what kind of
generator does the Sun use to seperate the atoms from whatever material science
believes it gets it from?

3) Were does the Sun find the oxygen for fusion to occur, NASA uses hydrogen as
fuel, but can't do anything with it if its not mixed with oxygen?

4)What kind of a reactor does the sun use to control and sustain a steady flow of
this fusion from not becoming a chain reaction causing an explosion?

5) How do the atoms fuse, with no friction, there's no friction in outer space, how
do they heat up to fuse?

Don't even think about gravity, with no air you still have no friction, you need an
atmosphere for friction (air), when they landed on the moon, there was no friction,
yet there was gravity!

The scientist who acknowledges the LORD of Spirits reigns above all other
scientific men, because GOD is the Greatest Scientist; HE uses science to create.

And the statement, "God's Light Shines For Everyone" is true, the next time you're
out in the Sun, remember to: "Shine On You Crazy Diamond."

I hope I win the Noble Peace Prize.

[Azakel]

"The Sun Shines With GOD'S Light."

I know isn't Amataratsu great. ^_^

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Frank Castle

1) Nowhere on earth can you find hydrogen gas, liquid or solid, you must separate hydrogen atoms from
water, dead biological materials and natural gas molecules, were in this universe of yours do you find these materials?

Hydrogen is the most prevalent substance in the universe. It also happens to be very reactive, so when it's in contact with other substances (e.g. everywhere on Earth or in its atmosphere), it forms new compounds.

Originally Posted by Frank Castle

2) Were does the Sun find the oxygen for fusion to occur, NASA uses hydrogen as fuel, but can't
do anything with it if its not mixed with oxygen?

Fusion is not combustion.

Originally Posted by Frank Castle

3) How do the atoms fuse, with no friction, there's no friction in outer space, how do they heat up to fuse?

Don't even think about gravity, with no air you still have no friction, you need an atmosphere for friction(air), when they landed
on the moon, there was no friction, yet there was gravity!

What makes you think that heat or friction are necessary for fusion in the way you're describing?

Originally Posted by Frank Castle

I hope I win the Noble Peace Prize.

So do I, since you're not going to be winning the Nobel Prize for physics or chemistry.

[Frank Castle]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

Hydrogen is the most prevalent substance in the universe. It also happens to be very reactive, so when it's in contact with other substances (e.g. everywhere on Earth or in its atmosphere), it forms new compounds.

True but science says the Sun is mostly hydrogen in the form of a gas, but to make it a gas you have to extract it from the element its bond to, how and what kind of generator does the Sun use to seperate the atoms from whatever material science believes it gets it from?

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

What makes you think that heat or friction are necessary for fusion in the way you're describing?

Easy enough of a question, how do the atoms fuse?

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Frank Castle

True but science says the Sun is mostly hydrogen in the form of a gas, but to make it a gas you have to extract it from the element its bond to, how and what kind of generator does the Sun use to seperate the atoms from whatever material science believes it gets it from?

In an environment as hot as a star, everything breaks apart into its constituent elements.

Originally Posted by Frank Castle

Easy enough of a question, how do the atoms fuse?

I think that's the first time I've seen the word "easy" used in a sentence about nuclear fusion.

Short version of nuclear fusion:


- there are a bunch of forces working within and between atoms:

- electomagnetic force: every nucleus is positively charged, and like charges repel

- gravitational force: every nucleus has mass, and masses attract

- nuclear force: harder to explain, but holds parts of the nucleus together, and will attract two nuclei to each other if they get close enough

- normally (i.e. in most situations we encounter on Earth), the electromagnetic force keeps nuclei apart, so they can't undergo fusion.
- if something gets two nuclei close enough that the nuclear force can pull the nuclei together, they fuse. Depending on the elements involved, this fusion will either emit or take in energy.
- in the case of a star, that "something" is gravity. Stars are so massive and so dense that the material inside them gets squished so closely that the nuclear force can overcome the electromagnetic force, and fusion happens. In the sun, this generally means that hydrogen fuses with other hydrogen to form helium. In other stars, other fusion reactions occurred creating the other elements. Except for a few high-atomic-number elements that we've created on Earth, all elements in the universe were created this way: by fusion in stars.
- in the case of fusion reactions on Earth (e.g. experimental reactors, hydrogen bombs), we have to use trickery: we can do things like slam hydrogen nuclei into each other at high speed using a particle accelerator, or use the pressure wave from a nuclear fission explosion to compress a quantity of hydrogen so tightly that fusion happens (and causes a huge energy release that can destroy a city).

Long version:

Try doing a Google search on nuclear fusion, or read the Wikipedia page on the subject. In particular, check out the "Astrophysical reaction chains" section.

[Frank Castle]

All the forces that you've mentioned are simply definitions as to why the atoms collide, before they collide and fuse extreme heat must be generated, this is friction.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Frank Castle

All the forces that you've mentioned are simply definitions as to why the atoms collide, before they collide and fuse extreme heat must be generated, this is friction.

If you think so, maybe you could explain why.

It may help if you have a quick look at the page explaining nuclear fusion before you do.

[Frank Castle]

Here, you said it yourself take a look at a page "in the case of fusion reactions on Earth (e.g. experimental reactors, hydrogen bombs), we have to use trickery: we can do things like slam hydrogen nuclei into each other at high speed using a particle accelerator, or use the pressure wave from a nuclear fission explosion to compress a quantity of hydrogen so tightly that fusion happens."

You see here "slamming at high speed," is colliding, and here "pressure wave," is friction. Don't talk about places that you haven't been, like stars or Heaven, stick to the places you know, earth.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Frank Castle

Here, you said it yourself take a look at a page "in the case of fusion reactions on Earth (e.g. experimental reactors, hydrogen bombs), we have to use trickery: we can do things like slam hydrogen nuclei into each other at high speed using a particle accelerator, or use the pressure wave from a nuclear fission explosion to compress a quantity of hydrogen so tightly that fusion happens."

If we had a mass the size of a star lying around handy somewhere here on Earth, we could use that... but we don't, so we have to make do with what we have (plus, if we did have that much mass lying around, the Earth would be a star itself and we wouldn't be here having this discussion).

Originally Posted by Frank Castle

You see here "slamming at high speed," is colliding, and here "pressure wave," is friction. Don't talk about places that you haven't been, like stars or Heaven, stick to the places you know, earth.

Neither are friction.

Both are ways to get a hydrogen nucleus close enough to another hydrogen nucleus that attraction from nuclear force can dominate over the repulsion from electromagnetic force. Conversion of kinetic energy to heat (i.e. friction) is not part of the process.