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Old 05-23-2008, 09:08 AM
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Way to go Penguin, now I'm going to get alittle more technical because GOD is getting more technical with me.

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Fire and heat are not the same thing. Heat is a form of energy. Fire is a type of chemical reaction. And while fire does release heat, it is not the only source of heat.
True and ofcourse, the defining element is oxygen, the molecules are the fuel to this energy.

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Fire (in your example, rubbing two sticks together), and after that the reaction of one molecule will provide the activation energy for another molecule, which provides the activation energy for another molecule, and so on, and so on.
The sticks are rubbing the oxygen molecules found in the air, rubbed with enough friction, the molecules ignite, transferring that energy to the sticks which are combustable materials, hence, you start a fire.

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Rubbing two identical sets of sticks together in the same way will release the same amount of kinetic energy in the form of heat in space as on Earth.
No, here Penguin the example I will use are satilites, when in space, they work in definitely, problems arise when space trash hits them or they loose orbit and come slowly crashing into the atmosphere. (Air- friction)

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Old 05-23-2008, 09:18 AM
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The sticks are rubbing the oxygen molecules found in the air, rubbed with enough friction, the molecules ignite, transferring that energy to the sticks which are combustable materials, hence, you start a fire.
Did you just say that the Oxygen molecules ignite? *Cringe*

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Old 05-23-2008, 09:20 AM
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The sticks are rubbing the oxygen molecules found in the air, rubbed with enough friction, the molecules ignite, transferring that energy to the sticks which are combustable materials, hence, you start a fire.
No, when you rub two sticks together, the sticks are actually rubbing against each other, creating heat. It would take a superhuman effort to move a stick through the air fast enough to generate even a measurable amount of heat, to say nothing of enough to start a fire.

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No, here Penguin the example I will use are satilites, when in space, they work in definitely, problems arise when space trash hits them or they loose orbit and come slowly crashing into the atmosphere. (Air- friction)
Friction is present in space. It may not be friction with air, but if two things rub together, friction will result. For example, say your satellite has retractable solar panels or a steerable antenna dish. When these parts move, friction will develop in the joints and bearings of the mechanisms. Also, think about the rockets and thrusters on board the satellite: they use pumps to overcome the friction between the fuel and the walls of the pipes and hoses that feed the rocket engines. There's no atmospheric drag if you don't have an atmosphere, but friction still works in a vacuum.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:21 AM
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...And for our next debate... IS THE MOON MADE OF GREEN CHEESE?
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:23 AM
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...And for our next debate... IS THE MOON MADE OF GREEN CHEESE?
Of course it is silly. It's formed from the reaction of milk and God's light, in the presence of Oxygen and massive amounts of friction of course.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:24 AM
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Did you just say that Oxygen molecules ignite? *Cringe*
Yes, oxygen is very flammable, you will see trucks carring the liquid with signs that warn of this danger!
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Yes, oxygen is very flammable, you will see trucks carring the liquid with signs that warn of this danger!
If you look closely, you'll see that the symbols for "oxidizer" and "flammable" are different. Both can be dangerous, but for different reasons and need to be handled differently.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:32 AM
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It would take a superhuman effort to move a stick through the air fast enough to generate even a measurable amount of heat, to say nothing of enough to start a fire.
GOD hit me with this one, when you strike 2 rocks hard enough together, you can sometimes see a spark, this spark is the crushing of those oxygen molecules igniting with crushed elements of the rock, like hydrogen.

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Also, think about the rockets and thrusters on board the satellite: they use pumps to overcome the friction between the fuel and the walls of the pipes and hoses that feed the rocket engines.
True, because the fuel contains not only Hydrogen but Oxygen as well.
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...And for our next debate... IS THE MOON MADE OF GREEN CHEESE?
Only if we believe that the Hydrogen of the Sun comes from "Cow Farts."
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