Seek and ye shall find (ritual, Creator, Earth, Torah)

[stephenw]

I take this as advising people to question everything and actively find their own spiritual truths rather than blindly accept the established opinion of others. What does anyone else think?

[Bouncing Ball]

Depends on the person I think. You must do what makes you comfortable. A friend of mine for example is unable to create theories on his own. He keeps finding loopholes in his own theories and therefor rather follows someone elses theory

Myself however, I never really wanted to follow anybody else. Almost so stuborn that once I hear a theory I'll do my best to recreate it for myself or counter it in first place even if I agree with it. (once my countering misses I will have to except ofcourse(or want to accept))

[michel]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Ball

Depends on the person I think. You must do what makes you comfortable. A friend of mine for example is unable to create theories on his own. He keeps finding loopholes in his own theories and therefor rather follows someone elses theory

Myself however, I never really wanted to follow anybody else. Almost so stuborn that once I hear a theory I'll do my best to recreate it for myself or counter it in first place even if I agree with it. (once my countering misses I will have to except ofcourse(or want to accept))

I agree; Jehova's Witnesses would agree with that, but interpret it as "Read the Bible in its entirity, and follow everything to the letter"; to me, seek and ye shall find applies to meditation, and to my own form of Spirituality..........

[Frank Castle]

I too agree, I've come to the conclusion that all religions, sects, denominations, buddhism, hinduism, wiccans, pagans, satanists, stoogisms and every other belief written by mortal men are false, misleading, and wrong.

None of these have access to the Creator not by these means to be sure, proper channels do exist and I have concluded that they are found within each and everyone of us, therefore, I am resorting to the "inkless God" anything written, goes out the window.

From now on, I look within me and ask whatever it may be, and it makes sense, why would God put us on this earth without access to God? This would only have us trying to decide which belief has the direct codes? We would be jumping from belief to belief until we hit Gold, "God." So all I did is look and see if any of those different beliefs are any different from others, are those believers happier than others, are they more successful, do they date better looking girls, does the beer taste better, I think not.

If the True God's address is; 123 Heaven ave, and I'm sending prayers & requests to; 234 Christian st.

or to; 123 Islam rd.
or to; 777 Torah bl.

Will God ever get them? RETURN TO SENDER

The One who designed us certainly designed us as we design our world, how would you design a human if you could today? Would you give them a manual to read on how to operate yourself, or embed them with a chip? (manufacturer settings for toubleshooting in the events of problem solving) Would you put a direct online communcating feature, or have him/her face statues and engage in a ritual of dances and chants to make requests?

All of these religions never worked, the proof is in pudding, we have more problems today as we did in the yesteryears, maybe more. I think the time has come for a new beginning, I think we've been pulled the wool over our eyes too many times, my wool has torn, I'm no sheep, I'm a man.

Who out of you are satisfied with what has been written is you're faith, and if you could, would you change any of it? If you would, then just throw it out the window! I now know why atheist are, they have concluded that these so-called scriptures are bogus, they realised they have no bearing on making the world a better place, and resorted to some other form of explanation (science). I can relate with their disatisfaction, but I will not go from sheep 2 monkey I will hop over this link and become that which I always was, a Man. And I will remember that I have become Man, by missing the link.

[Tau]

Originally Posted by Frank Castle

I too agree, I've come to the conclusion that all religions, sects, denominations, buddhism, hinduism, wiccans, pagans, satanists, stoogisms and every other belief written by mortal men are false, misleading, and wrong.

All are wrong if you mean none are empirical.

But the 'truth' or part of it can be found in all viewpoints, and the methane breathing monsters of Sigma Secondus might think that every star is a God and planets are the wombs of Gods...the life forms the children of that God.
An interesting theism, but not actually true, or is it?
Perhaps it depends on interpretation, after all, we are all stardust...

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by stephenw

I take this as advising people to question everything and actively find their own spiritual truths rather than blindly accept the established opinion of others. What does anyone else think?

It's been sometimes thrown at me as something equivalent to "anyone who really tries will end up thinking like me, so if you don't agree with me, you're lazy."

[Phasmid]

Originally Posted by stephenw

I take this as advising people to question everything and actively find their own spiritual truths rather than blindly accept the established opinion of others. What does anyone else think?

I thought it meant, "You know the truth deep down".

[stephenw]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

It's been sometimes thrown at me as something equivalent to "anyone who really tries will end up thinking like me, so if you don't agree with me, you're lazy."

If it was thrown at me that way i'd reach straight for my expletives drawer. Anyone who used it that way would deserve some straight language.

[Frank Castle]

Originally Posted by Tau

All are wrong if you mean none are empirical.

Ofcourse, why else would they be wrong?

Originally Posted by Tau

But the 'truth' or part of it can be found in all viewpoints, and the methane breathing monsters of Sigma Secondus

Sigma Secondus? What is that?

Originally Posted by Tau

Perhaps it depends on interpretation, after all, we are all stardust...

Why stardust?
In scriptures stars are angels, why not Universal-dust or God-atoms? Unless ofcourse you believe angels created us, but then I would ask "how do you know this?"

And I agree with you that parts of truth can be found in all of them, how else could they have sold a lie without the sugar-coating.