To the Christians out there (Jesus, moral, Earth, Deuteronomy)

[Sk8Joyful]

Originally Posted by TheHumanGod

Of course, thats not to say God doesn't exist in our Ultimate Reality.

You are correct there.

You deny: GOD in the dual-"Linear, Particle" part of reality, as that's where you choose to limitedly exist, stuck.

Others of us, prefer to choose living in *Non-linear, Wave* possibility reality, as this is
where GOD also creates... & operates. Hence, we can enjoy GOD's "life..., more abundantly"

Of course, you can as well *change*

Cheers! Annie

[TheHumanGod]

Originally Posted by Sk8Joyful

You are correct there.

You deny: GOD in the dual-"Linear, Particle" part of reality, as that's where you choose to limitedly exist, stuck.

Others of us, prefer to choose living in *Non-linear, Wave* possibility reality, as this is
where GOD also creates... & operates. Hence, we can enjoy GOD's "life..., more abundantly"

Of course, you can as well *change*

Cheers! Annie

Correct, I am stuck. If I was not than there would be no dispute on the existence of God. You are also stuck. Christianity uses faith as an acknowledgment that we are stuck for it by definition accounts for something unprovable... so this reality you claim i live in you yourself also live in. So to claim you live in a higher existence of reality than myself is beyond the Christian faith.

Who is to say one cant enjoy life as abundantly as possible without God? How does believing in God make life outside of this belief better?

Originally Posted by Sk8Joyful

Thank you for your honesty.

GOD, as Jesus Christ, said:
jhn 10:10
"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:

I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly".

From the above you can plainly see: any Spirit, or human, who strives to
steal, kill, or destroy, especially *blessed Belief & FAITH in our Savior*, is according to GOD a "thief".

To me it is the intent of an action and not the action itself that matters most. My perceived intent is "that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly". Is the thief that steals from an elderly man of great abundance to feed a starving child evil? In this case i will gladly take the title "thief" as long as it is understood that I am a morally "good" one.

Originally Posted by Sk8Joyful

Yet GOD, as Jesus Christ, invites you to discover & "enjoy GOD's life, more abundantly".
Thus my question for you: How soon will you *accept* Him? and GOD's life, more abundantly

Annie

If He exists i will *accept* Him when He wants His existence to be known... Otherwise accepting him would be a denial of my natural existence.

[Charity]

Originally Posted by TheHumanGod

This Thread is designed to foster a greater understanding of the Christian faith and or Faiths in opposition to Christianity. If you disagree with anything anyone has said in response to the questions below than please be respectful to that person and state as clearly as possible why it is you disagree with them.

My personal intention in this thread is to understand the mentality of others with different views, and to attempt a greater understanding of religion than i already hold.

If you are Christian please answer the following questions with your first post. If any other Christian or non Christian disagrees with a response please quote the concept/Idea you disagree with.

What is God to you?

How sure are you that God exists? Why?

Do you follow/act morally in context of your belief in the Christian faith?

(optional)Post any other info you believe proves your religion.

Some Personal Background info(skip it if you want):

I was born as a Mormon (went to church every week) and i believed in God as a child. Also most of my relatives are hardcore Mormon.

I turned Agnostic in 6th grade, later at the beginning of 12th grade i changed my views to a form of existential Atheism not so far from the Agnostic views i once held, began to extensively study metaphysics, and started to center my ideas on religion.

Also feel free to ask any questions you may have for me.

Thank you for your honesty (but there will be no conversion from me)
God is my creator, the giver of life
I knew God existed before I ever read the Bible, personal experience
I try to live my life as a Christian to the best of my ability, I'm only human sometimes I fall short but I have an advocate with Jesus, and ask for forgiveness
I can't see God, but I know he is there, He talks with me, through His word, No I don't hear HIs voice, I'm not on drugs and I am not delusional.....Maybe you have deluded yourself, but not me.....Your quest for religious understanding appears to keep changing, like trying on pairs of shoes....Have you achieved your goal yet?

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

What is God to you? God is like a parent to me. He (or She, if you prefer)is also like a friend I can talk to. I can only imagine a small part of God and certainly not the whole of God, however.

How sure are you that God exists? Why?I feel God's presence. I also see Him in His creations. I see beauty in nature.

Do you follow/act morally in context of your belief in the Christian faith? I certainly try to. I try to follow Jesus' commands the best I can. This includes love, mercy, no judging, no condemning. The golden rule sums it up pretty well "Do to others what you would have done to you"- In other words treat people the way you want to be treated.

A few thoughts- As a Christian, I don't think I am better than non-Christians. I am not completely convinced the other religions worship a different God than I do-- it may very well be the same one.

During my early childhood, my mother was an atheist (my father wasn't around). My stepfather was a Buddhist. I became a Christian at age 17.

I think this is an unusually honest, accurate and humble set of answers. "I feel His presence and see Him in His creations" is probably as good as it gets as basis for belief.

[ChristineES]

This may sound like I am schizophrenic to the non-theist, but I sense God-- Just like you can sense someone is in a room when you don't hear them or see them.

Some of the atheists I have talked to are disillusioned with the way the earth is going-- for example my mother became an agnostic at age 12 when she read about the Holocaust and became an atheist when her baby (before I was born) died at age 6 months old. I am not sure how big a percentage of agnostics and atheists became that way because of some traumatic event-- probably a small one. (I hope this isn't too off topic)

And no, I don't think God is beauty. I was trying to say that what God creates is important in it's own right. Even something that appears ugly can be beautiful.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

This may sound like I am schizophrenic to the non-theist, but I sense God-- Just like you can sense someone is in a room when you don't hear them or see them.

I appreciate that you understand that this sounds a bit like symptoms of some mental illness to some of us.

Don't want to argue about your faith, and doubt that it will have any impact, but if one were schizophrenic, and suffered very real delusions, one could probably come to see that they are not "real" in the same sense that my keyboard is real. So it seems to me that someone who "senses" God in this way could take the view that doesn't necessarily imply that He is real. See what I mean?

[Mister Emu]

If no then why?

I was on no drugs, and I wasn't asleep/tired... Insanity is a possibility I guess...

[Dunemeister]

God is the creator of all other things, visible and invisible. He made a covenant with the nation of Israel and promised them a Messiah, a savior. He fulfilled that promise through Jesus. Mysteriously, Jesus belongs on the divine side of the equation as the bestower of blessings by contrast with usual humans who are the recipients of blessings. Through Jesus, God has summoned all persons to repent and follow Jesus. I am currently on that pilgrimage.

I am 100% sure that God exists. I'm sure because he has revealed himself to me in experience, conscience, creation, scripture, and history. For all that, I allow the real possibility that I am madly and totally mistaken. However, I've not yet heard arguments persuasive enough to undermine my confidence in what I already know.

My religion informs every aspect of my life. At least, I think it does, and I'm constantly open to correction. If I am convinced that my life in some way grieves God, I am generally eager to change.

[Muffled]

Originally Posted by TheHumanGod

This Thread is designed to foster a greater understanding of the Christian faith and or Faiths in opposition to Christianity. If you disagree with anything anyone has said in response to the questions below than please be respectful to that person and state as clearly as possible why it is you disagree with them.

My personal intention in this thread is to understand the mentality of others with different views, and to attempt a greater understanding of religion than i already hold.

If you are Christian please answer the following questions with your first post. If any other Christian or non Christian disagrees with a response please quote the concept/Idea you disagree with.

What is God to you?

How sure are you that God exists? Why?

Do you follow/act morally in context of your belief in the Christian faith?

(optional)Post any other info you believe proves your religion.

Some Personal Background info(skip it if you want):

I was born as a Mormon (went to church every week) and i believed in God as a child. Also most of my relatives are hardcore Mormon.

I turned Agnostic in 6th grade, later at the beginning of 12th grade i changed my views to a form of existential Atheism not so far from the Agnostic views i once held, began to extensively study metaphysics, and started to center my ideas on religion.

Also feel free to ask any questions you may have for me.

Jehovah is the creator, sustainer and ruler of everything.

Extremely sure. I believe the testimony about Him. He has answered my prayers. I see his judgements working in this world today.

Yes. At this point it is hard to tell where I begin and Jesus leaves off.

I don't follow a religion; I am one with God as Jesus prayed that I would be. The proof is in the pudding. By the time you see it, it may be too late for you. At any rate God has us all cooking (global warming). Maybe He is stoking the fires of Hell, lol.

Raised American Baptist by Holiday Christians. Currently attending a Christian Science Church although I don't believe everything that Mary Baker Eddy has to say. Belief in God was innate rather than engendered. The Bible ony strengthened that innate belief. My understanding of God and Christianity has been a matter of progression although Christians tend to call it growth. I hear God speak to me, see visions and speak in tongues.

[Muffled]

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

I was on no drugs, and I wasn't asleep/tired... Insanity is a possibility I guess...

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is that all who call upon Jesus to be Lord and Savior can hear God. From what I have read so far of what you have said, I have not encountered any insanity.