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Old 05-18-2008, 09:36 AM
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Where would you be without science? Perhaps still in your cave wondering why the sun rises?

Thats exactly were he would be, gnawing on a bone.
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Old 05-18-2008, 09:47 AM
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Really?

I can't believe that, I simply cannot accept a rational mind could believe in genesis.
How can your mind work like this, denial of the truth?
I find it fascinating and also very disturbing.

You live in ignorance of the wondrous majesty and beauty of creation, your loss.
I am very rational I believe, then I suppose most people think they are, but I have a book (to give an example) of 50 scientists who believe as I do and they have examinded the evidence much more closely than I ever will. I do not suffer any loss in my apprectiation of The Lords creation but in fact I am able to glorify Him for His magnificence. I love science, I always have but for me true science does not contradict the word of the Creator.
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Old 05-18-2008, 09:52 AM
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I am very rational I believe, then I suppose most people think they are, but I have a book (to give an example) of 50 scientists who believe as I do and they have examinded the evidence much more closely than I ever will. I do not suffer any loss in my apprectiation of The Lords creation but in fact I am able to glorify Him for His magnificence. I love science, I always have but for me true science does not contradict the word of the Creator.
But what do see when you see stars being born and planets forming around them?

I have images of the above you are welcome to have.
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But what do see when you see stars being born and planets forming around them?

I have images of the above you are welcome to have.
post the link by all means, then i'll give an opinion.
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I love science, I always have but for me true science does not contradict the word of the Creator.
But the bible is a collection of words written by men, not the words of the creator. I dont understand whats the problem with accepting that the people who wrote the Bible had no concept of 1) Thermodynamics, 2) Gravitation, 3) Stellar evolution, 4)Celestial Mechanics and Galaxial formation, 5)Biology, 6)Geology, 7)all the other sciences we have today. I'd much rather listen to science when it comes to matters of science. Only to theologians when it comes to matters theological. The Bible cant be considered the final authority on cosmology, sorry.

Remember it was written thousands of years ago. Our understanding of physics has changed since then. And so has our understanding of law--would you rather have a return to times when people were stoned to death for things like working on the sabbath? Can you say Taliban?
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I am very rational I believe, then I suppose most people think they are, but I have a book (to give an example) of 50 scientists who believe as I do and they have examinded the evidence much more closely than I ever will. I do not suffer any loss in my apprectiation of The Lords creation but in fact I am able to glorify Him for His magnificence. I love science, I always have but for me true science does not contradict the word of the Creator.
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Are you open and prepared for the possibility that the Isrealites mentioned in the Old Testament, could have fallen victim to this delusion? Or the authors of the gospels in the New Testament? Could even Joseph Smith Jr. been suggestible to this delusion?
No, however...

Matthew 24: 24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Joseph Smith Inspired version of Matthew 24: 24
For in those days there shall also arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch, that, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect, who are the elect according to the covenant.

No one is immune to the deceptive powers of Satan. We all need to be on guard and watch ourselves.

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