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Old 05-13-2008, 08:47 PM
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Default King Lucifer Of Tyre.

Lucifer was just a man, but not just any man, a king, king of Tyre, which means
that Satan is wrongly refered too, when spoken of in Ezekiel.

Isaiah.14:[12] How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how
art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Ezekiel.28:12 Son of man, utter a lament over the king of Tyre, saying to him:
Thus says the Lord GOD: You were stamped with the seal of perfection, of complete
wisdom and perfect beauty.

17 You became haughty of heart because of your beauty; for the sake of
splendor you debased your wisdom. I cast you to the earth, so great was your guilt; I
made you a spectacle in the sight of kings.
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Isaiah:[14] I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Ezekiel:2Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre: Thus says the Lord GOD: Because you
are haughty of heart, you say, "A god am I! I occupy a godly throne in the heart of the
sea!"-- And yet you are a man, and not a god, however you may think yourself like a god.
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Isaiah:[16]When they see you they will stare, pondering over you: "Is this the man
who made the earth tremble, and kingdoms quake?

Ezekiel:[19]Among the peoples, all who knew you stand aghast at you; You have
become a horror, you shall be no more.
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Isaiah:[19] But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the
raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the
stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

Ezekiel:[7]Therefore I will bring against you foreigners, the most barbarous of nations.
They shall draw their swords against your beauteous wisdom, they shall run them through
your splendid apparel. 8 They shall thrust you down to the pit, there to die a bloodied
corpse, in the heart of the sea. 9 Will you then say, "I am a god!" when you face your
murderers? No, you are a man, not a god, handed over to those who will slay you.

I just thought this lie should be dispelled about Lucifer being Satan, and Satan being the King of Tyre.

King Lucifer of Tyre.

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Old 05-13-2008, 09:19 PM
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In Ezekiel, it doesn't explicitly name Lucifer being King of Tyre, but there is some similiarities between Ezekiel's verses and that of Isaiah's.

The verses in Isaiah 14, referred Lucifer to the king of Babylon, not the king of Tyre, but I nevertheless agree with you that Lucifer is not Christian Satan or the Devil.

Even Jesus is referred to as the "morning star" in Revelation 22, hence to Lucifer.
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Lucifer is more then just a man. He is a pre-Christian Roman God. A god, well a minor god but a God non the less.
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Lucifer is more then just a man. He is a pre-Christian Roman God. A god, well a minor god but a God non the less.
Yes, he is. True....but only in Roman religion and mythology. Lucifer was actually based upon Greek god of the morning star, Eosphoros, which means Dawn-bringer.

But within the context of the bible, it is merely a Latin translation of the morning star. The Roman god Lucifer have nothing to do with Satan/Lucifer or with Satan/Babylonian-king/Tyrian king.
Lucifer/Eosphoros is totally different character altogether, and became a propaganda for absurd Christian view and tradition.

The morning star have different names in different cultures and are unrelated to the biblical versions.

Lucifer never had horns or tail, and never possessed trident. The trident was Poseidon/Neptune's symbol, which Christians have stolen, just like they steal symbols from other cultures and tradition.
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Yes, he is. True....but only in Roman religion and mythology. Lucifer was actually based upon Greek god of the morning star, Eosphoros, which means Dawn-bringer.

But within the context of the bible, it is merely a Latin translation of the morning star. The Roman god Lucifer have nothing to do with Satan/Lucifer or with Satan/Babylonian-king/Tyrian king.
Lucifer/Eosphoros is totally different character altogether, and became a propaganda for absurd Christian view and tradition.

The morning star have different names in different cultures and are unrelated to the biblical versions.

Lucifer never had horns or tail, and never possessed trident. The trident was Poseidon/Neptune's symbol, which Christians have stolen, just like they steal symbols from other cultures and tradition.
Thank you. A bit more in depth think I was thinking but true. Oh master of Myth knowing ^_^
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