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Old 05-09-2008, 10:37 AM
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Christians and Catholics think that Lucifer and Satan are the source of the all evil in the universe, but as I see it God is the true evil. If God had not loosed the Seven deadly sins, then Lucifer nor Satan would have fallen prey to Pride. Humans suffer, because God can't not adimt he has flaws. I look forward to hearing your rebuffs.
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:48 AM
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Is this for someone in particular? Why is it in the "one-on-one debates"?
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:23 PM
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I see it God is the true evil. If God had not loosed the Seven deadly sins, then Lucifer nor Satan would have fallen prey to Pride. Humans suffer, because God can't not adimt he has flaws. I look forward to hearing your rebuffs.
How can you be sure that which is written is truely GOD inspired?

What if its Satan inspired, leading you to believe this is GOD'S doing, and all the while its just part of the plan to putting you against the Almighty.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:27 PM
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Christians and Catholics think that Lucifer and Satan are the source of the all evil in the universe, but as I see it God is the true evil. If God had not loosed the Seven deadly sins, then Lucifer nor Satan would have fallen prey to Pride. Humans suffer, because God can't not adimt he has flaws. I look forward to hearing your rebuffs.
For Christians, God has no flaws to admit to. But I take your point about God being evil, however, this is an old idea best expressed in the tale of Sophia and the Demiurge from Gnosticism.

There's nothing wrong with hero-worshipping Lucifer I suppose, the Masons do it don't they, but Satan has too much baggage really. Unless you combine them...
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Christians and Catholics think that Lucifer and Satan are the source of the all evil in the universe, but as I see it God is the true evil. If God had not loosed the Seven deadly sins, then Lucifer nor Satan would have fallen prey to Pride. Humans suffer, because God can't not adimt he has flaws. I look forward to hearing your rebuffs.
What is evil, if you're an atheist?
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Theism? Or anti-Atheism? Or anything percieved to originate from outside the box of "logic" and "rationality"?
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Theism? Or anti-Atheism? Or anything percieved to originate from outside the box of "logic" and "rationality"?
This is untrue, moral codes can come from many philosphies, I don't consider "religion" inherently evil.
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He believed that Christians showed thier ingnorance in making up a being oppsed to God & calling him the devil in Hebrew language Satan.It is blasphemy to say that the greatest God has adversary who constrains his cpapacity to do good. He also accused Christians of inventing a heavenly rebellion in order to justify an earthly rebellion.

I agree to a point I think it's sad to blame something no one can see or hear for what man has done to himself.
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Christians and Catholics think that Lucifer and Satan are the source of the all evil in the universe, but as I see it God is the true evil. If God had not loosed the Seven deadly sins, then Lucifer nor Satan would have fallen prey to Pride. Humans suffer, because God can't not adimt he has flaws. I look forward to hearing your rebuffs.
I'm not sure what you mean by "set loose the Seven deadly sins." Sins aren't beings as such. They're actions.
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