Why does God hate Homosexuals and why did he create them? (priest, homosexuality)

[sojourner]

Originally Posted by Heneni

God considers himself credible. I dont get into comparing my credibility with anothers. I leave that up to god. What god thinks about autodidact is his business. The only clue i have is what is written in the word.

And there is a scripture in the bible that is of particular interest to me...the reason im even talking to the non-believers.

Ezekiel 3: 18 When I say to a wicked man, `You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to dissuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 19But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself.

Even if id like to say..whatever works for you bro...go ahead and do it...im afraid god does not see it that way. BOTH our lives depend on it.

Heneni

Then, I guess you see Auto's word as credible as yours, from God's POV? Why should you have to "put in a good word?" Can Auto not stand on her own merits?

Ezekiel does not give us either license or mandate to be judgmental. Didn't Jesus teach you that in his log-and-speck lesson? Perhaps you were too busy telling the homosexuals that they were being morally degenerate to hear the lesson...

[Heneni]

Originally Posted by Father Heathen

It's odd that even though you listed your religion as "no thanks" you're clearly religious.

The bible does not have copyright on it.

Originally Posted by sojourner

Then, I guess you see Auto's word as credible as yours, from God's POV? Why should you have to "put in a good word?" Can Auto not stand on her own merits?

Ezekiel does not give us either license or mandate to be judgmental. Didn't Jesus teach you that in his log-and-speck lesson? Perhaps you were too busy telling the homosexuals that they were being morally degenerate to hear the lesson...

I would only worry about my credibility if i was worried about my reputation. And since reputation is linked to ego, im not particularly inclined to save my reputation at the expense of telling the truth. Ill put in a good word for you too, when god wants to seperate the splinters from the beamers, he should pick you to do the job. We are all each others witnesses and god is the judge. I believe autodidact believes strongly that she is right, and im sure god has noticed that already. Of course i dont believe that god HAS to listen to my attempt to put in a good word, but i do believe that he finds my opinions interesting. I was only hinting at her excellent attempt to justify herself, to such an extent that she could actually be chosen to defend the atheists on judgement day.

I dont have the splinter of homosexual activity in my eye. So your argument for not judging is not valid in this case. We all have to judge what is right and what is wrong, but i dont have any say in her eternal destiny , and for that reason, i dont see why I cannot and may not make a judgement. When god judges it involves your eternal destiny. In my opinion if i sit on the fence i could be easily blown over. Its while you have the splinter in your eye, that you dont see the beam in the other persons eye. An eye with a splinter cant see! You believe that homosexuality is ok dont you? Perhaps that is your splinter then. PS: im not entirely convinced that you and i are serving the same god. My god has a solution to homosexuality, your god thinks the solution is the acceptance of it. My god says they are hurting themselves, your god thinks they are doing just fine. NO?

Heneni

[Father Heathen]

Originally Posted by Heneni

The bible does not have copyright on it.

I don't understand what you mean by "copyright", but you believe in and follow the bible, and thus that defines your religion.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Heneni

I dont have the splinter of homosexual activity in my eye. So your argument for not judging is not valid in this case.

No, you have the plank of hypocrisy in yours, while you go on and on about the splinter of homosexuality in others', assuming that is even a bad thing at all, which it isn't to most reasonable people.

I'm not sure you understand the point of the splinter/plank analogy.

We all have to judge what is right and what is wrong...

Really? I thought that was God's job.

PS: im not entirely convinced that you and i are serving the same god.

If I were sojourner, I'd take that as a compliment.

[Heneni]

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I'm not sure you understand the point of the splinter/plank analogy.
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Have you become a christian then,or are you one of those non-believers that like to teach the believers what god is really like?

Originally Posted by Father Heathen

I don't understand what you mean by "copyright", but you believe in and follow the bible, and thus that defines your religion.

Hello Father Heathen, so are we going to be friends one day then? God is my religion. There are many pieces of literature that have been written by people who are not of the christian faith, and make a lot of sense, and actually if you read it, there are many similarities between what they say and what the bible teaches.

Just out of curiosity why do you call yourself a meanie?

Heneni

[mball1297]

[quote=Heneni;1161809]

Originally Posted by mball1297

I'm not sure you understand the point of the splinter/plank analogy.
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Have you become a christian then,or are you one of those non-believers that like to teach the believers what god is really like?

I was a Christian until I was about 18. I don't have to be a Christian, though, to understand an analogy. The point of the analogy is to say that you have your own problems (a plank in your own eye), so that's what you should be worrying about instead of someone else's sexuality, which you perceive to be bad (the splinter in their eye).

Hello Father Heathen, so are we going to be friends one day then? God is my religion. There are many pieces of literature that have been written by people who are not of the christian faith, and make a lot of sense, and actually if you read it, there are many similarities between what they say and what the bible teaches.

Just out of curiosity why do you call yourself a meanie?

Heneni

Right, and if you follow the Bible, you would be considered a Christian by everyone I know of. It's not a bad thing. It just seems odd to claim that you have no religion when you clearly have one.

[Green Gaia]

“You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates the same people you do.” --Annie Lamott

I'm agnostic. I don't know if there is a deity or not, I've not seen any proof either way and I'm OK with that. It seems to me that if God does indeed hate homosexuals that I as a practicing homosexual should know firsthand of a deity's wrath for such behavior. I can tell you that I've never felt any hatred from any such deity but I've experienced it plenty from those professing to follow said deity. They cite an ancient book that's been translated many times and most of which modern followers don't practice anyway, at least not literally. Yet they insist on pulling out a few words here (we'll assume they are translated correctly) and a few words there and proceed to condemn me and my family without pausing a moment to take my experiences and truth into consideration. So when the question is asked, and it is asked often, "why does God hate homosexuals?" The only honest answer I can give from my experience is that God doesn't hate homosexuals, but watch out for those professing to speak in God's place!

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Heneni

God considers himself credible. I dont get into comparing my credibility with anothers. I leave that up to god. What god thinks about autodidact is his business. The only clue i have is what is written in the word.

And there is a scripture in the bible that is of particular interest to me...the reason im even talking to the non-believers.

Ezekiel 3: 18 When I say to a wicked man, `You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to dissuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 19But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself.

Even if id like to say..whatever works for you bro...go ahead and do it...im afraid god does not see it that way. BOTH our lives depend on it.

Heneni

Demonstrating once again how Christianity requires its followers to be rude and obnoxious.