Why does God hate Homosexuals and why did he create them? (priest, homosexuality)

[Green Gaia]

Originally Posted by Fish-Hunter

Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them.

Yeah, that's so much better. Whore out the daughters.



Let's assume for the moment that story you just posted is true and translated correctly. The men wanted to RAPE the other men, to me that would be then a denunciation of homosexual rape, but not of a consensual relationship between two people who just happen to be of the same gender.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Fish-Hunter

God reavels His morally perfect will through the Holy Bible. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. How do you determine right from wrong Penguin. Why is your view more right than mine?

It's not; my view is right for me, and your view is right for you... if you go by Paul's Letter to the Romans:

Romans 14:5-6:
One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

Romans 14:13-14:
Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean.

[Fish-Hunter]

I guess the opening thread needs clarification when we are speaking about God. On this site, the word God can mean a million different gods. Homosexuality and fornication between a man and women outside of marriages are sins that can be forgiven in Christ. The requirment for Christianity is being a sinner.

[Fish-Hunter]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

It's not; my view is right for me, and your view is right for you... if you go by Paul's Letter to the Romans:

Romans 14:5-6:
One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

Romans 14:13-14:
Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean.

Paul is addressing the body of Christ and not all humanity.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Fish-Hunter

Paul is addressing the body of Christ and not all humanity.

Ah... so it's wrong for a Christian to judge a gay Christian, but okay for that Christian to judge a gay non-Christian?

[Fish-Hunter]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

Ah... so it's wrong for a Christian to judge a gay Christian, but okay for that Christian to judge a gay non-Christian?

It's okay for a Christian to be gay who restrains from sexual activity. It is a sin for straight Christians to have sex outside of marriage.

The morally upright unbeliever is in the same condemnation as the unbelieving gay. There is no difference between the morally self-righteous or the sexually loose hetro, or the gay unbeliever. All are under the wrath of God, apart from union with Christ. God's day of judgement is for His name sake and His own glory; therefore the unbeliever will ultimately lose his or her personal war against God. The only safe harbor from the coming day of wrath is found in Christ alone. Please consider the Word of God:

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God. John 3

[GayAtheist]

If its such for a problem for you vengeful "god", then let him bring it on and tell us. I'm sure it doesn't need some random followers to use their "god" to justify their own prejudices and bigotry!

[Fish-Hunter]

Originally Posted by GayAtheist

If its such for a problem for you vengeful "god", then let him bring it on and tell us. I'm sure it doesn't need some random followers to use their "god" to justify their own prejudices and bigotry!

I interpert this as picking a fight with the One true God, correct? If you want to know this One True God and understand His ways, just buy a large print modern English translation Bible and start reading for yourself. I recommend a large print NIV, NASB, or ESV. God will receive you into His kingdom on His terms alone. I would not listen to anyone on this site including myself; just start reading the Bible starting with the gospel of Matthew working through the entire New Testament first.

Amazon.com: niv large print bible

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Fish-Hunter

I interpert this as picking a fight with the One true God, correct? If you want to know this One True God and understand His ways, just buy a large print modern English translation Bible and start reading for yourself. I recommend a large print NIV, NASB, or ESV. God will receive you into His kingdom in His terms alone.

Are you under the impression that Gay Atheist has not read the Bible? I certainly have, and it did an excellent job of ensuring that I will never be a Christian, as it is a contradictory mish-mosh of ancient superstition, stolen myths, poetry, inaccurate military history, animal sacrifice instructions, and barbaric tribal taboos.