Why does God hate Homosexuals and why did he create them? (priest, homosexuality)

[Heneni]

Do I doppelganger?

Ditto the compliment.

Mball??? Um..id like to answer you but i believe you are unable to believe me. Your perception of me a hypocrite. I dont want to be your little bit of entertainment for the night if you dont mind.

Heneni

[doppelgänger]

Originally Posted by Heneni

Do I doppelganger?

Ditto the compliment.

Yeah . . . sorry, but your efforts all the more make me sympathize with victims of your sort of dehumanizing prejudice, and all the more make "Christianity" seem like it's easily used as cover for all kinds of repulsive conduct.

I don't know if that was what you were going for, but it's what you're accomplishing.

Best regards.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by kdrier

eh, it's pointless arguing with homosexuals, it's a never ending argument. All I'm going to say is most of society is heterosexual, and most of them agree it's not normal to be homosexual.

Are you saying that anything that is not normal is wrong or bad?

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Heneni

There comes a time when you have to ask yourself some tought questions. And i have observed my friends hurting themselves, and they have cried with me, and they have called out for help. But...no one can help them if they are not willing to admit that what they are doing is hurting themselves.

So if they say they're not hurting themselves, you don't believe them? Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy you've got there.

It doenst matter what i think about homosexuality really..does it? It matters to me what god thinks it does to people. And i have seen it. It is not good for them.

Not really, since there is no God. And no, you have not met me, and know nothing about me.

In my dealings with homosexual people, i have realised one thing in particular. YOU CANNOT CHANGE THEIR minds. That in itself is debased. If you cant change your mind, then there is something very wrong with it.

So I suppose you're open to changing your mind about Jesus? No? According to you that's debased.

It looks like you see everyone who disagress with you and isn't willing to agree with you as debased. That's really debased, if you ask me.

I accepted all my homosexual friends, i do not accepts them hurting themselves. But i cannot do anything about it, and they dont seem to have the ability to realise they are hurting themselves. And that is the problem from gods perspective. Their eyes and their ears have closed to the inner conscience and inner guide.

Or maybe they're not. Maybe they're perfectly happy, and sick of your sanctimonious arrogant attitude that you know what's best for them. Maybe that's why they dumped you.

I believe what god said. I dont think i should have doubted him. And i never will again, in this regards.

O.K., so, like God, you accept lesbianism then? btw, what did God say, and in what language? Do you even know? Do you even know whether God ever said a word about homosexuality? Many experts in ancient Hebrew and Koine Greek think he didn't. Did you know that?

I have seen my one friend try to commit suicide, i have seen him yearning for the acceptance of his parents, i have seen how they desperately need to act up in social circumstances to be accepted. They are longing for acceptance! That is true. But they will never find it. Never within themselves. Hence the great homosexual threads and controversy. And it will never go away either.

Or maybe they just wanted their parents to love them as they are.

I have come to the conclusion that homosexuals are so outspoken about their sexuality since they themselves have not come to grips with it. They fear that if they have to let go of it , they have to let go of who they are. But they dont really know who that is.They struggle to find an identity, and look to others people's acceptance of them, as a measure of how much they are worth. Hence if someone says someting about it, the respons is overwhelming since the fear of having to be challenged in that way is overwelming.These are the underlying problems that homosexuals struggle with.

I have come to the conclusion that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Having said all that...i also need to make something very clear. While I am quite outspoken about the problem of homosexuality causing a debased mind. I in no way think that i am better than them, or more worthy of love, or more self-assured.

Don't worry, we don't think so either.

Highligting the problems they experience does not make me better than them. I have to account for my own mishaps and mess-ups and they are many .

You could start with your tendency to bigotry.

Unfortunately this is always the way people interpret resistance to homosexuality - they interpret it as a personal attack.

Maybe it's because of the personal attacks. So far you've called us insecure, deceitful, debased, selfish and immoral. Sounds like a personal attack to me. I certainly feel attacked.

[Heneni]

Well i never said i hated homosexuals. Interesting personal projection there autodidact. Im just wondering..since you are an atheist, would it be ok if i was a bit sick of your comments in the religious section? I guess not. But then, you may spew your own mind out anywhere since you are a lesbian. I forgot, we have to tip toe around gay people in the religious section. Well at least my tolerance level is a bit higher than yours.

Heneni

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by kdrier

eh, it's pointless arguing with homosexuals, it's a never ending argument. All I'm going to say is most of society is heterosexual, and most of them agree it's not normal to be homosexual.

1. Define normal.
2. Are you sure? Have you taken a poll? I think most people have no problem with it. Why should they? It's no skin off their nose.

...assuming the man/people who made the bible were straight, they probably did not like the idea of homosexuals,

Why would being straight imply that you don't like the idea of homsexuals? What's wrong with live and let live? Do whites not like the idea of blacks? Talls not like the idea of shorts? Night-owls not like the idea of morning people? There's room for all sorts. As my mother used to say, it takes all kinds to make a world. And that's a good thing.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Heneni

Mball??? Um..id like to answer you but i believe you are unable to believe me. Your perception of me a hypocrite. I dont want to be your little bit of entertainment for the night if you dont mind.

Heneni

So, you don't think that your reading of the Bible and interpreting it in the way you have influenced your perception of those events? Just yes or no would be sufficient.

[Heneni]

Originally Posted by doppelgänger

Yeah . . . sorry, but your efforts all the more make me sympathize with victims of your sort of dehumanizing prejudice, and all the more make "Christianity" seem like it's easily used as cover for all kinds of repulsive conduct.

I don't know if that was what you were going for, but it's what you're accomplishing.

Best regards.

Best regards!!! LOL...you can spare me the fake sympathy doppelganger! Are you trying to sympathize with me because i am appearing to be a hypocrite? Well then that is your projection of yourself on me.

A HYPOCRITE is someone that thinks that they know the matters of god better than god.

And so that makes everyone here that does not believe what he said to be the truth about homosexual behaviour a hypocrite. Not me..i believe HIM!

You have a nice evening! And i mean it.