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Old 05-28-2008, 12:28 PM
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Im not even sure if this is completely accurate but Im sure someone here can help me ....But I believe somewhere also it talks about if a man rapes a woman he has to do the right thing and marry her..(what a lucky girl)
Yes, you're right. After all, a girl who isn't a virgin is damaged goods, wouldn't you say? Nobody else is going to want her, so once you drive her off the lot, you have to keep her. The vagina, unlike the penis, depreciates rapidly once used.
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:37 PM
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Yes, you're right. After all, a girl who isn't a virgin is damaged goods, wouldn't you say? Nobody else is going to want her, so once you drive her off the lot, you have to keep her. The vagina, unlike the penis, depreciates rapidly once used.

Yeah..if you get the initial "plunge" you must pay for life..ESPECIALLY if you are a rapist.You MUST keep having sex with her (the victim) untill YOU DIE!..The po po rapist...And what about the daddy??..What shame he must have that someone raped his daughter..Well at leat he gets 20 some odd peices of silver!!

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Not to keep derailing..But I do have to wonder(if not hope)..that the assumption is an unmarried virgin girl/woman automatically could not "consent" to sex(because women were brainless and helpless as well)..So the man was a rapist even if she was willing and in fact wanting.So in a sense..."pre marital sex" with a virgin would make you a rapist simply because you were "da man"...

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Old 05-28-2008, 12:52 PM
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My question for you, Dallas, is how you square this (and other) problems with your religious belief. This is all loving, perfect God, who makes these decrees that you fundamentally disagree with. Do you reject them? You can't do that, right? Do you follow them though you think they're wrong? Do you conclude that these aren't God's commandments, even though the Bible says they are? If so, how can you rely on the rest of the Bible? How do you know which parts to believe? How do you deal with all this?
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:54 PM
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Dallas maybe a little Bobbit-ism would help the situation here what do you think? if it offends us, we can cut it off.
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Old 05-28-2008, 01:08 PM
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My question for you, Dallas, is how you square this (and other) problems with your religious belief. This is all loving, perfect God, who makes these decrees that you fundamentally disagree with. Do you reject them? You can't do that, right? Do you follow them though you think they're wrong? Do you conclude that these aren't God's commandments, even though the Bible says they are? If so, how can you rely on the rest of the Bible? How do you know which parts to believe? How do you deal with all this?
I reject them ...Its wrong...I go with my heart..How I wish to be treated.I use my common sense.How do I deal with it?..I struggle.I take a hard look at my own self..Also...how would Jesus act..what would Jesus say...And Jesus got angry sometimes too..but it was righteous anger..

But if overall I imagine Him in the room with me...Say even standing behind you as as I speak to you...I tend to be a more loving person..

Other than that Im helpless..

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Old 05-28-2008, 01:16 PM
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Dallas, On the serious side, I don't know a lot of your hurt, but you have my sincere feelings for anything that you have been through. I can't put myself in your place but I have suffered a lot of physical and emotional abuse plus other things, so I can at least have some idea of how a person struggles with this "stuff".

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Not to keep derailing..But I do have to wonder(if not hope)..that the assumption is an unmarried virgin girl/woman automatically could not "consent" to sex(because women were brainless and helpless as well)..So the man was a rapist even if she was willing and in fact wanting.So in a sense..."pre marital sex" with a virgin would make you a rapist simply because you were "da man"...
No, that's not it. It's actually a little more complicated.

If a married woman has sex with any man but her husband, she and the other man are both stoned to death. There's no exemption for location.

If a betrothed woman has sex with any man but her betrothed, it depends on the location. If they had sex in town, she's presumed to be complicit; otherwise, why didn't she call for help? So she and the man are both stoned to death. If they have sex out in the fields, she's presumed to be innocent, since it wouldn't do her any good to call for help if there was nobody around to help her, so only the man gets stoned to death.

If a man has sex with a woman who is a virgin and is not betrothed to somebody else, he has to pay her father off and marry her, regardless of the situation, and can never divorce her.

If a husband finds his bride is not a virgin on the wedding night, she gets stoned to death.

So if you're a woman and you get raped, your best option is to inform on your rapist and make him marry you; otherwise, you're in for a world of trouble later.
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