Why does God hate Homosexuals and why did he create them? (priest, homosexuality)

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Green Gaia

Nope, wrong. I had a wonderful childhood with good Christian parents and I was never abused by anyone. Try again.

Don't worry, I don't see a little reality as affecting nawab's opinion, do you?

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by rheff78

If it would make me happy to have sex with a cow, should I be allowed?

I'm not comparing homosexuality to bestiality, mind you.

Yes you are.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by rheff78

But a minor could still have a say in it. By your point, if it makes the person happy, why not do it? And no, I'm using a comparison to make a point.

You left out an important part--if it makes two people happy, and harms no one else. In general, actions that improve the total level of happiness in the world and cause no one suffering are morally positive. That includes homosexual love.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Heneni

Hello Mball

My god does not allow anyone to dictate to him how he should use his powers.Refraining from telling him what he should do with those powers is called wisdom. Humans can barely cope with free will without destroying themselves, so lets not get into telling god what he should be like or what he should do with his will or with who he is. Why dont you find out for yourself what god is like, that way you can experience it first hand, and not have to rely on second hand info.

Heneni

I'm not dictating anything. I'm using what your religion teaches about him to make logical conclusions. If He is omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent and thought that homosexuality was a sin, then he wouldn't allow homosexuals to exist.

[rheff78]

ok, so now I am understanding. It takes two. So, what if TWO people want to have sex with animals? Is it then ok? It harms no other human.

[Heneni]

Originally Posted by mball1297

Homosexuality is not bad for them. There is no harm to the homosexuals.

It is not like saying some people don't have free will. They can choose what they want as much as you choose to be heterosexual. Them choosing not to practice homosexuality is no different from you choosing not to practice heterosexuality. You can both do it, but you'll be less happy with your life for no good reason.

Um...even if I am heterosexual, i could choose to have sex with a women. Sexual preferences is a choice. Spurred on by what we call lust. Lust will make you believe you can have sex with just about anything you want to. I dont think that god is particularly interested in having us have all our lusts satisfied. Even if you are a heterosexual, sexual sin is still wrong. The reason god is against it, is because it causes harm to ourselves. And as ive said, if you like harm to come to you, then that would be a bit of a debased argument. I choose to believe god when it comes to these matters, if he says it is not good for us, it isnt. Why argue with god? Is there anyone smarter?

Heneni

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by rheff78

ok, so now I am understanding. It takes two. So, what if TWO people want to have sex with animals? Is it then ok? It harms no other human.

You're being unusually hard-headed here. Let's talk about consent, and the ability to consent. Does that clarify it for you at all?

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by rheff78

ok, so now I am understanding. It takes two. So, what if TWO people want to have sex with animals? Is it then ok? It harms no other human.

I would hope you're joking, but I'll respond as if you're serious. Every person, or animal, involved in the act of sex needs to be consenting. If there are ten people involved, then all ten have to be of sound mature mind and consenting. And your example still harms one, the one being an animal. Ever heard of animal cruelty?