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Old 05-12-2008, 05:17 PM
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Hello Dallas

It didnt harden my heart. It opened my windows of perception. So now when i encounter a homosexual, im informed, not ignorant, or surprised. Always give the next homosexual the benefit of the doubt. But never doubt the bible.

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There are? Im not surprised.

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Old 05-12-2008, 05:17 PM
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What do you propose?
Making sure that as few people convert to Christianity as possible...what has Christianity ever done for the world apart from launch crusades, conduct inquisitions, burned witches and heretics (free thinkers), decieved the illiterate, started wars, taken money from the poor in the form of tithes, ethnically cleansed various races, persecuted homosexuals, taught falsehoods like creationism, taught man to be submissive to authority and not to question, told poor africans not to use condoms and let them die of aids...the list of crimes goes on for a few pages, but one day justice will be done.

Karma dear boy, I won't lift a finger.

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Old 05-12-2008, 05:25 PM
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Making sure that as few people convert to Christianity as possible...what has Christianity ever done for the world apart from launch crusades, conduct inquisitions, burned witches and heretics (free thinkers), decieved the illiterate, started wars, taken money from the poor in the form of tithes, ethnically cleansed various races, persecuted homosexuals, taught falsehoods like creationism, taught man to be submissive to authority and not to question, told poor africans not to use condoms and let them die of aids...the list of crimes goes on for a few pages, but one day justice will be done.

Karma dear boy, I won't lift a finger.
Christianity has had possitive "results" in many individuals lives..We arent all war mongering bigots that dont beleive in contraception to have baby after baby and to kill people off with aides...

My cousin goes to Africa regulary ...he does spread the word but he also brings relief and education...

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Old 05-12-2008, 05:29 PM
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Heneni, why do you assume any of that had to do with their being homosexual? It seems pretty odd for 6 friends to just "dump" you all of a sudden for no reason. I find it hard to believe that they would all "betray" you like that. It seems to me that either you had a part in it that you don't see because of your prejudice, or the whole situation was not the way you perceived it. I'd be more inclined to believe that your opinion on homosexuality clouded your perception of the actual events, than to believe that these people all just treated you like dirt for no reason, and then "dumped" you. It might be best to take a more objective look at the whole situation, if you can.
Yes of course I had a part to play in it. Except you might think that i was playing the part of the oppressor, but instead i was playing the part of the oppressee.

And they loved it, as long as i considered myself 'below' them, they were fine with me. And when they were done with me, they tossed me away like a piece of trash. I didnt loose them all at once, but in the course of a month or two things started to get nasty. I know why, long story short, i was of no use to them anymore.

You dont have to believe my account. You certainly dont have to. The experience was intended to open my eyes of perception, and so god allowed me to learn more about life and people. And i wont doubt those scriptures about sexual perversion again!

Have you ever thought about coming out of the closet?

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Old 05-12-2008, 05:33 PM
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Christianity has had possitive "results" in many individuals lives..We arent all war mongering bigots that dont beleive in contraception to have baby after baby and to kill people off with aides...

My cousin goes to Africa regulary ...he does spread the word but he also brings relief and education...

Love

Dallas
You know what?

I know that there are some very decent christians out there, good people, but sadly it is a faith that has been hijacked by the wicked for centuries and now I don't believe a word of the Bible, I know who wrote the Bible, and it wasn't God.
The Church I blame, the shell that has grown over the faith, squeezing God into the shape it wants...
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:43 PM
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Yes of course I had a part to play in it. Except you might think that i was playing the part of the oppressor, but instead i was playing the part of the oppressee.

And they loved it, as long as i considered myself 'below' them, they were fine with me. And when they were done with me, they tossed me away like a piece of trash. I didnt loose them all at once, but in the course of a month or two things started to get nasty. I know why, long story short, i was of no use to them anymore.

You dont have to believe my account. You certainly dont have to. The experience was intended to open my eyes of perception, and so god allowed me to learn more about life and people. And i wont doubt those scriptures about sexual perversion again!

Have you ever thought about coming out of the closet?

Heneni
Why would you imply that I might be gay? Because I fight against prejudice against them? I do not happen to be gay, but I don't take that as the insult it seems to imply.

It's not about me believing your account. It's the fact that I think it's only your perception of the events, which is clouded. I think you should look at it from a different point of view to get a more realistic account of what happened. I would love to hear your friends' version of the story, because I'm sure it differs greatly from yours.

Can you give examples of why you thought that they considered you "beneath" them? Also of what use you were to them when you were friends, and what gave you the impression that they felt you were no longer of use to them? Those are very important details in discovering the causes of the whole situation. Also, how did you meet them in the first place?

You might have very good reasons for thinking what yo do, and the situation might have played out exactly as you describe, but when you start off with the belief that all homosexuals are bad, immoral, and messed up in the head because you read it in a book, it makes it seem like that would very much cloud your judgement.
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Have you ever thought about coming out of the closet?

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Time out.

Are you suggesting that anyone who disagrees with your imposition of your judgments on homosexual behavior must be homosexual?
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I know that there are some very decent christians out there, good people, but sadly it is a faith that has been hijacked by the wicked for centuries and now I don't believe a word of the Bible, I know who wrote the Bible, and it wasn't God.
The Church I blame, the shell that has grown over the faith, squeezing God into the shape it wants...
I try not to waste my time with the warped..I say how I feel...Then I move on..In -fighting amongst Christians is not how Jesus wanted it..IMHO...Its a distracting and quite frankly a waste of my time...Let the morally righteous sit in their ivory towers casting stones upon my head...My head has a fairly strong cranium...

If they get happy that that is "thier job'...then so be it..

Clashing gongs and cymbals never got through to me..Because Im a milk and honey kind of gal...

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