Why does God hate Homosexuals and why did he create them? (Sodom, procreation)

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

The point is, through out all species the main purpose of sex is proceation. deviation from that purpuse is just lust.

Pretty much, but many seem to act as if it is a requisite and a right by god, to do as they please.

This gang of folk have had little ol me here before and a few were rather upset that I was so pointed and direct. AS time has progressed the arrogance has lessoned but the same truth applies.

Read a bit and find that the for addressing right and wrong or simply good and bad, is not based on opinion but reality. No single book is going to share the scope that is now working its way through the globe. The truth comes from Understanding, which means it must include the scope of humanities contributions to knowledge; as the truth is uniform to existence; compassion for the total, not the self!

[Magic Man]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Pretty much, but many seem to act as if it is a requisite and a right by god, to do as they please.

This gang of folk have had little ol me here before and a few were rather upset that I was so pointed and direct. AS time has progressed the arrogance has lessoned but the same truth applies.

Read a bit and find that the for addressing right and wrong or simply good and bad, is not based on opinion but reality. No single book is going to share the scope that is now working its way through the globe. The truth comes from Understanding, which means it must include the scope of humanities contributions to knowledge; as the truth is uniform to existence; compassion for the total, not the self!

Have you ever had sex? If so, have you ever had sex without getting pregnant? Should heterosexual couples who have sex their entire lives, but decide never to have kids, be banned? Should any sex that doesn't lead to pregnancy be banned?

If you answer "yes" to the last 2 questions, you're crazy, and if you answer "no" to them, you're being completely hypocritical.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by mball1297

Have you ever had sex? If so, have you ever had sex without getting pregnant? Should heterosexual couples who have sex their entire lives, but decide never to have kids, be banned? Should any sex that doesn't lead to pregnancy be banned?

If you answer "yes" to the last 2 questions, you're crazy, and if you answer "no" to them, you're being completely hypocritical.

do you think you are the first to poses this same argument?

..... sorry but that is not the debate otherwise i could go the illness sector and ask, if a man and women had penatration in the standard form will he experience a better chance of getting sick if he does not clean himself over and above a man and man doing the 'tration?

So your form of argument is less that satifactory and simply a disregard for reasoning articulation.

God don't hate homo's as they exist within the total; god.

But when the choices of them homosexuals is geared towards their own desires and of no concern for the majority (open exposure to the public), then them selfish choices are the ill regard to all mankind. Go play as you wish but the 'unnatural' belongs out of public exposure. That is the whole issue of my opinionated responses but for some reason some ignorant self serving fool has to makeup some dumb question as if to pin me down with logic.

Play with someone else, this opinion shares knowledge that encumbers far more than you may understand, so please see if the logic is truly compassionate before running the keyboard with foolish attempts to corner the truth!

[Magic Man]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

do you think you are the first to poses this same argument?

Nope. But you seem to not have taken it into account, so I thought I'd bring it up to you, so that you could.

..... sorry but that is not the debate otherwise i could go the illness sector and ask, if a man and women had penatration in the standard form will he experience a better chance of getting sick if he does not clean himself over and above a man and man doing the 'tration?

I don't know what this says.

So your form of argument is less that satifactory and simply a disregard for reasoning articulation.

God don't hate homo's as they exist within the total; god.

But when the choices of them homosexuals is geared towards their own desires and of no concern for the majority (open exposure to the public), then them selfish choices are the ill regard to all mankind. Go play as you wish but the 'unnatural' belongs out of public exposure. That is the whole issue of my opinionated responses but for some reason some ignorant self serving fool has to makeup some dumb question as if to pin me down with logic.

Yeah, silly me trying to pin you down with logic. It's obvious you find your way around logic with ease.

Um...the bold actually addresses directly the questions I asked. This would seem to indicate that anyone that ever has sex purely because it feels good, and not for procreation and the "good of mankind" is selfish and bad. So, if you've ever had sex without having a baby, you are the same as a homosexual. Oops, there goes that logic thingy again. Sorry, didn't mean to bring logic into your happy little world.

Play with someone else, this opinion shares knowledge that encumbers far more than you may understand, so please see if the logic is truly compassionate before running the keyboard with foolish attempts to corner the truth!

I guess I'll have to since you don't want to play.

[Bishadi]

This would seem to indicate that anyone that ever has sex purely because it feels good, and not for procreation and the "good of mankind" is selfish and bad. So, if you've ever had sex without having a baby

Sorry but I am responsible. I am married and any man alive knows that sometimes we have too, 'for the good of mankind'.....meaning a frustrated women is not healthy to have in public, so often duty calls.

As for the

go the illness sector and ask, if a man and women had penatration in the standard form will he experience a better chance of getting sick if he does not clean himself over and above a man and man doing the 'tration?

If you cannot understand that then apparently you must not be gay or know any (male gays) as friends. The point is, man to man can get the pitcher sick if not careful, so the form or argument can also be used for sharing 'unnatural' in a purely logical sense because the first example (man and women) does not get people sick as readily as the second example (man and man) unless an 'unnatural barrier' is normalized in the interaction.

Sorry to the forum on the graphics but some are often childish about being honest with themselves and I am not one to beat around the bush when it comes to facts!

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Sorry but I am responsible. I am married and any man alive knows that sometimes we have too, 'for the good of mankind'.....meaning a frustrated women is not healthy to have in public, so often duty calls.

As for the If you cannot understand that then apparently you must not be gay or know any (male gays) as friends. The point is, man to man can get the pitcher sick if not careful, so the form or argument can also be used for sharing 'unnatural' in a purely logical sense because the first example (man and women) does not get people sick as readily as the second example (man and man) unless an 'unnatural barrier' is normalized in the interaction.

Sorry to the forum on the graphics but some are often childish about being honest with themselves and I am not one to beat around the bush when it comes to facts!

LOL
You are just to funny.
What exactly is this "unnatural "barrier"?
Should be rather interesting considering your track record concerning definitions.

[Reverend Rick]

I believe Gay and Lesbian folks when they say it is not a choice. I need to define "it" however.

I would say the desire is not a choice. Acting on any desire is a conscience choice.

Lets not focus on whether the choice is right or wrong. RF has had enough debate about this subject and I have become rather fond of our Gay and Lesbian members.

It would be truly sad if a church pushed anyone away who wanted to be closer to their religion.

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

God don't hate homo's as they exist within the total; god.

But when the choices of them homosexuals is geared towards their own desires and of no concern for the majority (open exposure to the public), then them selfish choices are the ill regard to all mankind. Go play as you wish but the 'unnatural' belongs out of public exposure.

being openly gay is selfish and of ill regard to all of mankind? what sanctimonious crap! you would try to veil your blatant homophobia with trumped-up arguments for "the greater good"?

pathetic. i wonder which one God appreciates more, and honest gay like me, or a preacher of hate like you?

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by Mike182

being openly gay is selfish and of ill regard to all of mankind? what sanctimonious crap! you would try to veil your blatant homophobia with trumped-up arguments for "the greater good"?

pathetic. i wonder which one God appreciates more, and honest gay like me, or a preacher of hate like you?

What I find interesting is that the preacher of hate will almost always claim that their ALL LOVING God has somehow revealed to them the truth and approval of the hate the preach.

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

As for the If you cannot understand that then apparently you must not be gay or know any (male gays) as friends. The point is, man to man can get the pitcher sick if not careful, so the form or argument can also be used for sharing 'unnatural' in a purely logical sense because the first example (man and women) does not get people sick as readily as the second example (man and man) unless an 'unnatural barrier' is normalized in the interaction.

Sorry to the forum on the graphics but some are often childish about being honest with themselves and I am not one to beat around the bush when it comes to facts!

it is true, there are certainly risks with anal sex. the same risks in fact that there are in vaginal sex, oral sex, and hell, any other exchange of bodily fluids. sexuality has nothing to do with that. if two people are clean, no risk. if one of the two is not clean, there is a risk. it doesn't matter if both parties of are the same or different genders, the risk is the same.