Why does God hate Homosexuals and why did he create them? (priest, homosexuality)

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

Romans 1-26:27
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

read it again, try harder, you can do it...

As I was saying, lesbian sex is not prohibited anywhere in the Bible, including that passage. You know how prohibitions go, right? They're like "Thou shalt not..." Like this: Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. That's a prohibition. Romans 1-26-27 is a story. See the difference?




I am a cook! id rather take heat in here than in hell.





Seems like your mind is set, and your heart is cold... i sense you can't believe that the bible has so much wisdom in it that your inner balance is shaken and you see the wisdom that i read as a threat to that balance...

don't fight, the fear of God is the start to understanding![/quote]

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

As I was saying, lesbian sex is not prohibited anywhere in the Bible, including that passage. You know how prohibitions go, right? They're like "Thou shalt not..." Like this: Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. That's a prohibition. Romans 1-26-27 is a story. See the difference?

yup i see the difference indeed. you are looking for a law that is exactly worded as such, and refuse to acknowledge the meaning of the verse i quoted.

It is getting crazy talking to you...

[Bishadi]

It is getting crazy talking to you...

That should be my line.

In nature; see the flowers. Sex is all about procreation. In all of nature that intent to combine with another (opposite sex) is universal in all living things; the intent to continue.

Well the same goes for the selfish; a dope dealer needs to corrupt another in order to continue. Kids are not born dopes, they learn to become a dope by enjoying what is fun with no responsibility to what the adverse action causes to others.

Nothing is nature suggests that sword fighting is good, nor going in thru the out door.

Such that flowers have both parts to their sexual relations to other flowers but still a physical reality shares the reproductive organs react when the opposite or other sexual partner conveys its seed so their combination can create the next generations flowers; to continue.

The problem with this debate is people can maintain a precept of the self over and above facing the truth with honor.

So the perpetuation of the selfishness within the species (man/women who only care about themselves) continues under only one premise; lying (a selfish imposition to existence)!

As to be completely honest with themselves then half of the atrocities existing between mankind would be extinct.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

yup i see the difference indeed. you are looking for a law that is exactly worded as such, and refuse to acknowledge the meaning of the verse i quoted.

It is getting crazy talking to you...

I refuse to agree with you about what you think it means. What that verse does is relate a story. In the verses just prior, these people are sinners. God punishes them by causing them to engage in unnatural sex. For these heterosexual women, that included homosexual sex. There is no prohibition anywhere in that text. If you say that God prohibits it, you are substituting your own prejudice for God's word. btw, for me, heterosexual sex would be unnatural, and would certainly be an effective punishment.

In the OT alone, God issues 613 specific commandments. Many of them relate to sex. They specify a long list of people with whom you are not allowed to have sex. Here's one category not on the list, for women: another woman. It's just plain not there. Period. God doesn't prohibit it. It's not prohibited. It's allowed. Now stop acting on your own ideas and read the text. Isn't that what your whole deal is supposed to be about? Does this mean you're not a real Christian?

[rheff78]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

I refuse to agree with you about what you think it means. What that verse does is relate a story. In the verses just prior, these people are sinners. God punishes them by causing them to engage in unnatural sex. For these heterosexual women, that included homosexual sex. There is no prohibition anywhere in that text. If you say that God prohibits it, you are substituting your own prejudice for God's word. btw, for me, heterosexual sex would be unnatural, and would certainly be an effective punishment.

In the OT alone, God issues 613 specific commandments. Many of them relate to sex. They specify a long list of people with whom you are not allowed to have sex. Here's one category not on the list, for women: another woman. It's just plain not there. Period. God doesn't prohibit it. It's not prohibited. It's allowed. Now stop acting on your own ideas and read the text. Isn't that what your whole deal is supposed to be about? Does this mean you're not a real Christian?

Wait, it says "God gave them over". no where does it say that he forced them into lesbian sex. God does not force, he provides us with a chance, what we do with that chance is up to us, be it natural or unnatural, good or evil.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

That should be my line.

In nature; see the flowers. Sex is all about procreation. In all of nature that intent to combine with another (opposite sex) is universal in all living things; the intent to continue.

That's fascinating and irrelevant. btw, many species, including most mammals, exhibit homosexual behavior. What's your point?

Well the same goes for the selfish; a dope dealer needs to corrupt another in order to continue. Kids are not born dopes, they learn to become a dope by enjoying what is fun with no responsibility to what the adverse action causes to others.

What are you talking about? What 's your point?

Nothing is nature suggests that sword fighting is good, nor going in thru the out door.

Point?

Such that flowers have both parts to their sexual relations to othe flowers but still a physical reality shares the reproductive organs react when the opposite or other sexual partner conveys its seed so their combination can create the next generations flowers; to continue.

O.K., I've known that since I was a child. Again, your point? Are you under the impression that gay people are trying to get each other pregnant, and don't know how? Cuz we're not.

The problem with this debate is people can maintain a precept of the self over and above facing the truth with honor.

Are you referring to yourself? I'm all about truth, which is why I disagree with you; you're wrong.

So the perpetuation of the selfishness within the species (man/women who only care about themselves) continues under only one premise; lying (a selfish imposition to existence)!

Is Enlgish your native language? Because honestly I have no idea what you're saying and plan to give up soon if it doesn't become more clear.

As to be completely honest with themselves then half of the atrocities existing between mankind would be extinct.

What's your point? Are you trying to call homosexuality an atrocity? Cuz you realize it doesn't hurt anyone, right?

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by rheff78

Wait, it says "God gave them over". no where does it say that he forced them into lesbian sex. God does not force, he provides us with a chance, what we do with that chance is up to us, be it natural or unnatural, good or evil.

O.K., then He allowed it. What He certainly did not do is prohibit it, much as some would have liked Him to do.

[rheff78]

That's not how it works. He also, to fit your definition, allows murder to happen. So because he doesn't forcibly restrict it that means he is ok with it, right?

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by rheff78

That's not how it works. He also, to fit your definition, allows murder to happen. So because he doesn't forcibly restrict it that means he is ok with it, right?

Actually, yes, it means exactly that.