Energy (ritual, spiritual, God, divine)

[tomspug]

I would only relate 'energy' to God by saying that energy is a creation of God. There is no sense of necessity between the two other than energy needs God to exist, but not the other way around.

[Tau]

God may be energy but so is everything else, matter is just energy in high concentrations.

The energy of God sounds like a metaphor for the 'light' or 'illumination' that is said to emanate from God.

[Heneni]

Great post Willemena


God created energy, and energy is what is needed for life.

Is that what God breathed into adam, energy?

No one has been able to create energy, and no one can create God.

Matter cannot exist without God, the only one that can create energy. However Energy can exist without matter.

Energy can not be created or destroyed but simply goes from one form to another, so when you die, your energy goes somewhere. Into the wormies that eat you, and into the ground and surroundings. Your spirit is energy too, and therefore can not be destroyed either, but have to go somewhere. Hence energy can exist without matter. Your spirit can exist without a body.

Jesuss energy in His ressurected body allowed him to appear and dissapear, like energy would move from one place, or one form to another. This energy could move through matter.

I think Jesus had a type of energy in his ressurected body we have not discovered yet. Energy that can create matter. Its this type of energy that sets the energy on this earth apart from the energy that is God. God is a creating energy, all other energies are created energies. We can only transform energy from one type to another and transfer it from one object to another, but in a ressurected body,your spirit will be able to move from one piece of matter to the other, or create matter within which to move in. This is a type of energy that can change the form and type of the matter, this is the energy Jesus had in his ressurected body.

If you had a ressurected body this is what you could do:

If you want to move from one planet to another, you could tranform yourself into light energy, and move VERY fast.

If you want to go down to the deapest ocean, you could tranform your energy to heat energy or wave energy. If you want to go and look at the sun, you could transform into radiation energy

If you want to talk to everyone in the universe at the same time, you could transform yourself into sound energy. If you wanted to talk to certain being only you could change your fequency and wavelenght.

Will be lots of fun to have a ressurected body!

If you wanted to create a planet, you would say...let there be Venus. That sound energy would be used to create the matter of venus, and that sound energy can be tranformed into different energies needed to make venus a certain temperature, or have a certain amount of heat, etc. You would then be an intricate part of that planet, you would be IN the planet.


Love
heneni

[.lava]

Originally Posted by Willamena

When you use the word "energy" in relation to God or a God concept, is it a metaphor for something else?

God created energy. it is part of creation, not God itself.

are you also referring to energy bodies? auras, dream bodies..etc??

[Tau]

Originally Posted by .lava

God created energy. it is part of creation, not God itself.

You can't create or destroy energy , it's a fundamental law of physics, how could/would God break his own rules?

Very liberal usage of the term 'energy' in this thread, very interesting.

[.lava]

Originally Posted by Tau

You can't create or destroy energy , it's a fundamental law of physics, how could/would God break his own rules?

Very liberal usage of the term 'energy' in this thread, very interesting.

hmm...that was not what i am saying. God is not energy. energy is in creation. God is not in creation because it did not create itself or God is not created.

law of physics make me think. it is mystery to me. because i don't know what's happening to energy or masses when they're swallowed by black hole. energy has started with bigbang (according to my knowledge) so maybe there was no energy out of creation. i don't know.

God would not break laws. i don't mean physical laws here. when a physical laws is broken, i think that's what we call miracle or at least one of them.

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by .lava

hmm...that was not what i am saying. God is not energy. energy is in creation. God is not in creation because it did not create itself or God is not created.

That makes more sense to me than "God is energy."

[Heneni]

If God placed satan in charge of music...or sound in heaven, it means that satan had the gift of sound energy.

I think that when satan rebelled in heaven, heaven became silent, since the mistro of sound in heaven was cast out. If he was banished to this earth, all that satan could do with his gift of sound energy was cause havoc here.

The waters must have been roaring, the mountains and the hills trembling. He must have caused terrible thunderstorms as he complained and voiced his anger towards god. Jesus said he saw satan fall like lightening. Lightening being a combination of light and heat energy. LOL, god shined him out of heaven and made him feel the heat as he made his way down here. Must have resulted in thunder so loud the entire universe could hear it!

Also, Jesus rebuked Peter, when he asked Jesus if they should command lightening from heaven to destroy those that dont listen to Jesus. He said to peter, get behind me satan. Peter wasnt satan, but the words he was speaking was creating sound waves that would be similar to that which satan can use to cause trouble.

Satan is still a spirit with the gift of sound energy. Hence he is referred to as a roaring lion, but this time seeking whom he may devour. So his gift of sound energy, has been turned into an energy that tries to destroy instead of restore.

This is why bitter words, are like arrows in your heart, and anger and murder results in angry conversations and the sorrowfull cries for help. This type of sound energy destroys. Satan uses his gift of sound energy to destroy the hearts and minds of people.

Footnote: If you read the book 'he came to set the captives free' youll read about how satan can turn a cat into a chicken. Im not kidding. But ill leave that there....I dont think he has the power to create stuff with his gift of sound energy like god can when he spoke this earth into existance. What I do think he can still do, is use his gift of sound energy to manipulate matter, but certainly not to create matter. Jesus used his gift of sound energy to curse the fig tree, and it died, he used it to manipulate matter. Why he cursed the fig tree is a matter for another thread maybe.

Christians are refered to as light bearers, and so we have the gift of light energy. Since we dont glow in the dark, that energy can not be taken literally. But that light energy can be used to heal, and help, and comfort the hearts of others. And as far as the spiritual world is concerned, we must be glowing.

Here is food for though, what if the words that you speak, the sounds that you create is what satan uses to do bad stuff to others? The energy in the words that you use, can create good or can create destruction. Use your words to do good then.

The bible says, in the beginning was the word...(SOUND) and the word was with god (SOUND ENERGY WAS WITH GOD) and the word (SOUND) was God. He is the embodiment of all types of energy. But he is also a type of energy that can create matter, it can manipulate matter and create new forms of energy.

The bible says, heaven and earth shall pass away, matter will pass away, but his words (SOUND ENERGY) will remain forever.

The bible warns us about cursing people for the reason that this sound energy is what satan can use to destroy people.

Im just thankfull that God can transform any type of energy into another. So whatever negative energy satan is causing, the bad vibes he is sending out, can be turned into good. So then good always triumphs over evil, as long as god is able to tranform one type of energy into another. I think that satan gift of sound energy will be transformed into heat energy. He will be cast into the bottomless pit forever. Where is the bottomless pit? In the belly of the earth. Since the earth is round it has no bottom. And there he will be heating up and venting his anger, while the earth above it uses that energy to sustain life on earth. God is smart.

Most of the miracles that Jesus performed was by using his words. (SOUNDS)

How did Jesus walk on water? He froze it as he walked on it. He took away the heat energy of the water molecules which made it solid.

How did Jesus feed the thousands? He created matter by using energy.

How did Jesus turn water into wine? He took the molecules in the containers and the water, and re-arranged it to make wine.

How did Jesus 'float' into the air? He heated himelf up. Which is why he left a footprint in the rock he was standing on when he accended. How did Jesus eat fish after his ressurection and did not need to go to the toilet? He rearranged the fish molecules and made it into something else in his body.

And whatever God has spoken into existance, it has never stopped being what he said it should be.And the energy he created has never stopped being. It has not become more, or less, its just tranformed from one type to another.

The bible says that out of the mouth of babes god has created perfect praise. So Satan was fired and you were hired. Your words can be like music in the ears of God.

Love
Heneni