If a god is truly beyond our understanding (Earth, theist)

[science_is_my_god]

I often use logic and reasoning to try to grasp the notion of a "god", and although I have tried many times before to accept a god's existence, I cannot. I argue to theists my logic, my reasoning, even my "gut instinct". And yet, many times I hear the arguements that a god's existence is beyond human comprehension. That I cannot use my logic to logically analize my logic, because it could be flawed. And quite frankly, I agree. However, if such an arguement is used, a god could NOT possibly want our belief in his existence. Why? Because if he created the universe, and therefor created my understanding, and put himself above it,that either means he created my understanding by accident, or that he intended me to disbelieve in him.

Does anyone agree/disagree? Does anyone have thoughts on this?

[Dunemeister]

If you are talking about philosophical theism, I can certainly agree with everything you've said.

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by science_is_my_god

I often use logic and reasoning to try to grasp the notion of a "god", and although I have tried many times before to accept a god's existence, I cannot. I argue to theists my logic, my reasoning, even my "gut instinct". And yet, many times I hear the arguements that a god's existence is beyond human comprehension. That I cannot use my logic to logically analize my logic, because it could be flawed. And quite frankly, I agree. However, if such an arguement is used, a god could NOT possibly want our belief in his existence. Why? Because if he created the universe, and therefor created my understanding, and put himself above it,that either means he created my understanding by accident, or that he intended me to disbelieve in him.

Does anyone agree/disagree? Does anyone have thoughts on this?

Wait... if you believe that your logic is flawed, where does that leave your conclusion?

[stephenw]

Why do you think God would want you to believe in Him?

[+Xausted]

Originally Posted by stephenw

Why do you think God would want you to believe in Him?

you just love messing with peoples heads dont you

[crystalonyx]

Originally Posted by science_is_my_god

I often use logic and reasoning to try to grasp the notion of a "god", and although I have tried many times before to accept a god's existence, I cannot. I argue to theists my logic, my reasoning, even my "gut instinct". And yet, many times I hear the arguements that a god's existence is beyond human comprehension. That I cannot use my logic to logically analize my logic, because it could be flawed. And quite frankly, I agree. However, if such an arguement is used, a god could NOT possibly want our belief in his existence. Why? Because if he created the universe, and therefor created my understanding, and put himself above it,that either means he created my understanding by accident, or that he intended me to disbelieve in him.

Does anyone agree/disagree? Does anyone have thoughts on this?

I think at this point there is no reason for you to try to accept the existence for which there you find no evidence thereof.

[Sola'lor]

Originally Posted by science_is_my_god

I often use logic and reasoning to try to grasp the notion of a "god", and although I have tried many times before to accept a god's existence, I cannot. I argue to theists my logic, my reasoning, even my "gut instinct". And yet, many times I hear the arguements that a god's existence is beyond human comprehension. That I cannot use my logic to logically analize my logic, because it could be flawed. And quite frankly, I agree. However, if such an arguement is used, a god could NOT possibly want our belief in his existence. Why? Because if he created the universe, and therefor created my understanding, and put himself above it,that either means he created my understanding by accident, or that he intended me to disbelieve in him.

Does anyone agree/disagree? Does anyone have thoughts on this?

I believe if we try and know absolutly everything about God then He is beyond our comprehension. But He can understand basic principles and ideas about His.

He didn't creat your understanding. You understanding is somthing you've had as an individual since before we were born on this Earth.

Maybe you'll have a better time believing in God in the Spirit World. Maybe it's not part of God's plan for you to believe in Him during this mortal life.

[Don Penguinoini]

God doesent give a toss whether you believe in him or not... At least i think

[angellous_evangellous]

If this is your starting point:

Originally Posted by science_is_my_god

I often use logic and reasoning to try to grasp the notion of a "god", and although I have tried many times before to accept a god's existence, I cannot. I argue to theists my logic, my reasoning, even my "gut instinct". And yet, many times I hear the arguements that a god's existence is beyond human comprehension. That I cannot use my logic to logically analize my logic, because it could be flawed. And quite frankly, I agree.

You obviously have no basis for this:

However, if such an arguement is used, a god could NOT possibly want our belief in his existence.

Because while this looks like a rational, logical basis, you'd have to forgo your original premise.

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