Parables, can we break the code? (Jesus, moral, Kingdom, beliefs)

[Heneni]

Originally Posted by AK4

Lol. Unfortunately we all do. I could put something here that would show you how humble I am but I know it will just fall on deaf ears.

Deaf ears hey...pride over estimates oneself and under estimates others.

Who's ears were you referring to then?

As far as your post goes. I get the fact that we are all 'trees'.

You propose that jesus saw satan fall from the high minds of people.

And the power of the enemy you say is in the 'heaven ' of their minds.

Luke 10:19I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven." (snakes and scorpions crawl around on the ground)

So these peoples minds became debased, filled with creepy crawly things. So when they thought they were in mind 'heaven' their minds were actually crawling on the ground.

Ok...i think it seems fair that when jesus said he saw satan fall like lightening, it means he saw satan fall from out of the high minded people's minds.

Although...many demon possessed people were not very posh and high society...so what do you make of that? Is it still fair to say that jesus saw the demons fall out of their 'heavenly' minds like lightening?

[AK4]

Originally Posted by Heneni

Deaf ears hey...pride over estimates oneself and under estimates others.

Who's ears were you referring to then?

As far as your post goes. I get the fact that we are all 'trees'.

You propose that jesus saw satan fall from the high minds of people.

And the power of the enemy you say is in the 'heaven ' of their minds.

Luke 10:19I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven." (snakes and scorpions crawl around on the ground)

So these peoples minds became debased, filled with creepy crawly things. So when they thought they were in mind 'heaven' their minds were actually crawling on the ground.

Ok...i think it seems fair that when jesus said he saw satan fall like lightening, it means he saw satan fall from out of the high minded people's minds.

Although...many demon possessed people were not very posh and high society...so what do you make of that? Is it still fair to say that jesus saw the demons fall out of their 'heavenly' minds like lightening?

Do you really have to be posh and of high society to be in the "heaven of your own mind"? I dont think so. I know plenty of people who are not of that stature who still live in the "heaven of their minds." I often times am with those who get caught up in the heaven of my own mind. (I guess by your last couple of posts you would say i was just there)

[Heneni]

Originally Posted by AK4

Do you really have to be posh and of high society to be in the "heaven of your own mind"? I dont think so. I know plenty of people who are not of that stature who still live in the "heaven of their minds." I often times am with those who get caught up in the heaven of my own mind. (I guess by your last couple of posts you would say i was just there)

Dont you think that demon possession...the nasty kind, you know the kind that makes you wanna throw yourself into a fire, and the kind that would require you to be fastened with chains to keep you under control, would rather mean....out of your mind....rather than in a 'heavenly state of mind'?

[AK4]

Originally Posted by Heneni

Dont you think that demon possession...the nasty kind, you know the kind that makes you wanna throw yourself into a fire, and the kind that would require you to be fastened with chains to keep you under control, would rather mean....out of your mind....rather than in a 'heavenly state of mind'?

Yup, i think it could be both. We have scriptures that shows that Jesus is able to cast satan down from the "heaven of mens mind" and save them from being "out of their mind" and sometimes from "physically" being possessed.

[Heneni]

Originally Posted by AK4

Yup, i think it could be both. We have scriptures that shows that Jesus is able to cast satan down from the "heaven of mens mind" and save them from being "out of their mind" and sometimes from "physically" being possessed.

So when jesus said that he saw satan falling like lightning, you dont think he was talking about satan being cast down out of the 'out of mind' kind of people, but only those that were 'heavenly minded' (full of pride)?

Heneni

[AK4]

Originally Posted by Heneni

So when jesus said that he saw satan falling like lightning, you dont think he was talking about satan being cast down out of the 'out of mind' kind of people, but only those that were 'heavenly minded' (full of pride)?

Heneni

Yeah i do, Look at how Jesus freed the guy who had the demons legion in him.

Mark 5:1-20
I think (i can only think this for i havent been "out of my mind" or at least i think i havent) that when someone is really out of their mind satan is right there in their heaven and then when that person overcomes being "out of their mind", satan falls like lightning from that persons heaven. This is just my honest opinion.

Only example i can think of right now is Jeffery Dahlmer. He was out of his mind for sure but was probably in his heaven when he was killing and eating these people or look at some people who are addicted to some drug and when they take em they feel like their in heaven or something.

[Heneni]

Mark 7: 26The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
27"First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
28"Yes, Lord," she replied, "but even the dogs under the table eat the children's crumbs."
29Then he told her, "For such a reply, you may go; the demon has left your daughter."
30She went home and found her child lying on the bed, and the demon gone.

This is one of the most humble scriptures in the bible. This women did not pressume to think that jesus should help her at all. Yet he did. Jesus in effect calls her a 'dog'. But it did not offend her..instead she was happy with such a declaration and asked jesus to still help her.

Notice...this women had little ego problems. She did not get offended by what jesus said...

And see how...when she overcame her ego...her daughter was set free as well.

God is a generational god.

[AK4]

Originally Posted by Heneni

God is a generational god.

To say that more scripturally (hebrew and greek), Jesus is a aonian God or eonian God.

Yes and that was a great example too

[Heneni]

You wouldnt perhaps know why jesus cursed the fig tree would you?