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Old 05-06-2008, 02:57 PM
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Plus of course as many service operators and retailers will tell you, gay men in particular frequently have large disposable incomes and spend a lot of their money, rather than saving it, making wise purchases I am sure, but either way, good for an economy.
In my book, as a small business operator this would be if I catered for that particular group's market, a wonderful thing.

Just another way of looking at it..
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The priority of each choice is not the self.

Even in nature the 'un-natural' acts are to ease frustrations and dominance.

If each have that choice, they make it. Yet when an open disclosure is structured to establish the choice as 'normal' shares the selfish enterprize of the misconception.

The greatest error in the model is the attrition of children. For some reason this area is never addressed in these conversations. Very few actually recognize how the confusion grows and develops. such the same that most will not perfect the knowledge that literally shares that most who are biased for same sex; the majority had an adverse or negative imposition to their childhood development.

So the compassionate observation should remove the self of the observance and look at the imposition to the total, first!
So now all you needs do is show which is the 'natural' and which is the 'unnatural.'
I contend that heterosexuality is the 'unnatural.'

greatest error ... is the attrition of children?
The reason it is not addressed is because the jury is still out on it.
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So now all you needs do is show which is the 'natural' and which is the 'unnatural.'
I contend that heterosexuality is the 'unnatural.'
And if your parents thought the same you would not be here.

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greatest error ... is the attrition of children?
The reason it is not addressed is because the jury is still out on it.
Who needs to be told the answer by a jury? Use your own mind.

No one cares for what a 'clic' suggests as true, nature runs the show.

Leave an island full of hetero couples on an island we have life.

Try your idea and find extinction as the ultimate reality. Which if you think about it, then there would be no kids to corrupt with irresponsible fun.
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And if your parents thought the same you would not be here.
Non sequitur.

Care to try again?

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Who needs to be told the answer by a jury? Use your own mind.
I do use my own mind.
And the fact of the matter is that there is no conclusive evidence that shows the link you suggest.

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No one cares for what a 'clic' suggests as true, nature runs the show.
You wish.
You yourself care what the clic's think.
If you did not, then you would not be presenting your case.

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Leave an island full of hetero couples on an island we have life.
So what?

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Try your idea and find extinction as the ultimate reality.
Since when did heterosexuality equate infertility?

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Which if you think about it, then there would be no kids to corrupt with irresponsible fun.
Really?
Again when did heterosexuality equate infertility?
And yet again, you have as yet shown the "irresponsibility" of it.

Are you going to address my points or continue to skirt around them?
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Let me make one thing very clear,if you think that i would like you to convert thats why i am presenting to you your wrong. I just mentioned about Islam in relation to Homosexuality. Not propogation. I do not speak for all Muslims. I dont have such a big heart to care about every human being and inviting them to the truth. If you want to beleive, than you beleive if not face the consequences later. Why do i have to care.
it is not my duty to present the truth but rather your duty to learn the truth. just like when your thiristy you go to the well, the well does not come to you.

How about a young couple can they have children or not. How about two dead gays can they make out. by giving examples of old people you have only proved your own standard of knowledge to me.

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In fact He never mentions it. Yes, they do. Would you like me to cite the studies? So? Neither can an elderly heterosexual couple, does that make their love wrong?

You're mistaken.

O.K., I think that rules that religion out for our OP. Good job at preventing another convert, nawab.
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Let me make one thing very clear,if you think that i would like you to convert thats why i am presenting to you your wrong. I just mentioned about Islam in relation to Homosexuality. Not propogation. I do not speak for all Muslims. I dont have such a big heart to care about every human being and inviting them to the truth. If you want to beleive, than you beleive if not face the consequences later. Why do i have to care.
it is not my duty to present the truth but rather your duty to learn the truth. just like when your thiristy you go to the well, the well does not come to you.

How about a young couple can they have children or not. How about two dead gays can they make out. by giving examples of old people you have only proved your own standard of knowledge to me.
no, it shows the big inconsistencies in you "moral" argument against homosexuality. if you don't recognise that or counter it with decent argument, then your posts are not really worth anyone's time.
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Non sequitur.

Care to try again?
Nope! Fact is you share a line of what you think is OK, but fail to see anything but your own needs.
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I do use my own mind.
And the fact of the matter is that there is no conclusive evidence that shows the link you suggest.
Sorry, if integrity is your weakest link.

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You wish.
You yourself care what the clic's think.
If you did not, then you would not be presenting your case.
It is the little people. These sites have little minds wishing to learn and develop and it is the preditor such as the argument suggests, certain groups can not exist unless they procreate by ruining someone mind. i.e... you don't think, as all you are doing is spreading the lack of care for anyone but yourself.. 'your clic'

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Since when did heterosexuality equate infertility?
Hetero= means babies.

Homo = just fun for the self

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Really?
Again when did heterosexuality equate infertility?
And yet again, you have as yet shown the "irresponsibility" of it.

Are you going to address my points or continue to skirt around them?
That irresponsibility is what you are doing now! Trying to suggests that it is simply OK to represent same sex fun as normal.

Please discontinue and enjoy life. Otherwise if you feel your own needs come over and above others, then a bulls eye is on your head.

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Hetero= means babies.

Homo = just fun for the self
rubbish. this basic description of the qualities of heterosexuality implies that heterosexuals are not selfish in their love making - if it was only about babies, heterosexual couples would only have sex when trying for a baby and that would be it. this is certainly not the case, so sex for fun and pleasure is obviously not an issue. if sex for fun is not an issue for heterosexuals, why should it then become an issue for homosexuals?

your description of homosexuality as simply being for fun is ridiculously misguided and bordering on offensive.


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human sexuality is an incredibly complex thing, what is normal and not normal in culturally relative and not in any way objective. what you really mean when you say homosexuality is not normal, is that you find the idea of it icky. i see no moral argument against homosexuality here.
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