Homosexuality and Religion (Jesus Christ, agnostic, LDS, bible, God)

[fantôme profane]

Originally Posted by DallasApple

But hey...maybe I shouldnt listen to you because your mouth is homosexual?..
And I bet your hand is gay too...

This reminds me of a scene from the “Gay Merchant of Venice”.

I am a Gay.
Hath not a Gay eyes? hath not a Gay hands, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions? fed with
the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject
to the same diseases, healed by the same means,
warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, as
a Hetero is? If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison
us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not
revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will
resemble you in that.

[DallasApple]

Originally Posted by fantôme profane

This reminds me of a scene from the “Gay Merchant of Venice”.

I am a Gay.
Hath not a Gay eyes? hath not a Gay hands, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions? fed with
the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject
to the same diseases, healed by the same means,
warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, as
a Hetero is? If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison
us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not
revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will
resemble you in that.

This reminds me of an All in the Family episode I saw as a young girl..Archie was in a life and death situation..Needed a blood transfusion..Guess what?..to his horror he got "black blood"...He was really ****** off..But in the end..I think his heart softened and he realized we are all made of flesh and blood...and was "appreciative"..As appreciative as
Archie could get that is...

Love

Dallas

[Ashley-Yin]

Originally Posted by fantôme profane

This reminds me of a scene from the “Gay Merchant of Venice”.

I am a Gay.
Hath not a Gay eyes? hath not a Gay hands, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions? fed with
the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject
to the same diseases, healed by the same means,
warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, as
a Hetero is? If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison
us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not
revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will
resemble you in that.

Sounds like something Jesus would say

[lilithu]

Originally Posted by Andrew Steven Fawcett

I am a gay male, and at the moment I am an agnostic, but I am leaning towards believing in the existence of God. I want to know what different religions think of homosexuality is?

Forgive me if this has already been posted by a fellow UU. I didn't feel like reading 18 pages of the same old arguing about homosexuality.

THE UNITARIAN-UNIVERSALIST ASSOCIATION AND HOMOSEXUALITY

UUA: History of Unitarian Universalist Involvement in and Support of Bisexual, Gay, Lesbian, and Transgender Issues

As for the arguing in the thread, the OP asked for our respective opinions on the matter. He did not ask for it to degenerate into the same old arguments about it. Honestly, don't you haters ever get tired?

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by nawab

just a simple theory any appropriate Law should be universal, If all the Humans become homosexuals mankind would extint because of reproduction, but if all Humans are straight nothing would happen.

By the same rationale, every profession but farming is wrong. After all, if we were all doctors or all teachers, we'd all die of starvation with nobody to grow food... but if all humans are farmers, nothing would happen. Right?

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Sorry to burst your bubble, but 'others' is the priority and it is simply that I cannot find compassion for the few to over run compassion for the majority...

That is your bigotry. Claiming care and compassion yet focused only on the 'feelings' of the few rather than the majority. Limited sight, limited comprehension and definitely, reduced compassion.

How is compassion for the minority incompatible with compassion for the majority?

Originally Posted by Bishadi

If the majority of gays came from pedophiles would you believe that?

Pedophilia is usually about control, not sexual attraction. Heterosexuals are just as likely to be pedophiles as homosexuals.

For the small proportion of pedophiles who do commit pedophilia out of attraction, their attraction is based on age, not gender.

A person attracted to adults of the same sex is no more likely to be a pedophile than a person attracted to adults of the opposite sex.

Originally Posted by rheff78

By the design of it. What is the end result of the act of sex? Why do we ejaculate? What purpose does it serve? Not simply for pleasure. There is a reason for it. The natural law dictates the act of sex, what the result is suppose to be. Like I said earlier, a wrench can make an effective weapon but that was not it's intent. If you use it for that you are still mis-using what it was designed for. I know this is off topic and I do apologize.

Are you actually arguing that we can infer the morality of an action by whether or not it's apparently "designed" for? How is "man was not meant to have gay sex" any different in nature from "man was not meant to fly" or "surgery goes against God's will"?

Originally Posted by rheff78

But I guess getting back to the OP, in Christianity (with the exception of I think the Episcopals) we are against the ACT of homosexuality. I think most religions throughout the world are pretty much in line with this.

In Christianity, there are a number of groups who are not against the act of homosexuality:

- some Episcopal/Anglican churches & diosceses (like you mentioned)
- many liberal Quaker meetings
- the Metropolitan Community Church
- the Unitarian Universalist Church (though not all are Christian-centric)
- some Baptist churches
- some Methodist groups
- some Lutheran groups
- some Presbyterian groups
- the United Church of Canada

In addition, I'm certain that there are other Christian groups and individuals who place as much emphasis on homosexuality as Jesus did in the Gospels, i.e. none at all.

You can find more details of the positions of various Christian denominations here. When it comes to accepting homosexuals, it's not just the Episcopals.

[Green Gaia]

Originally Posted by lilithu

Forgive me if this has already been posted by a fellow UU. I didn't feel like reading 18 pages of the same old arguing about homosexuality.

THE UNITARIAN-UNIVERSALIST ASSOCIATION AND HOMOSEXUALITY

UUA: History of Unitarian Universalist Involvement in and Support of Bisexual, Gay, Lesbian, and Transgender Issues

As for the arguing in the thread, the OP asked for our respective opinions on the matter. He did not ask for it to degenerate into the same old arguments about it. Honestly, don't you haters ever get tired?

OMG, we must share the same brain tonight! I seriously was just composing almost the exact same post as you. Including the "I didn't feel like reading 18 pages of the same old arguing about homosexuality" comment.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Green Gaia

OMG, we must share the same brain tonight! I seriously was just composing almost the exact same post as you. Including the "I didn't feel like reading 18 pages of the same old arguing about homosexuality" comment.

Well, they don't call you guys "Universalists" for nothing.