Homosexuality and Religion (Jesus Christ, agnostic, LDS, bible, God)

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by rheff78

I think most religions throughout the world are pretty much in line with this.

Maybe you should take a better look at most religions throughout the world, then. You don't have to go far, we have representatives from many of them right here on this site.

[Alceste]

Originally Posted by Rolling_Stone

Doesn't change the results of the experiments or the implications.

It changes the implication that this experiment has implications for homosexuality if there is no measurable difference between a "gay" brain and a "straight" one.

In other words, it debunks the suggestion (which I read between the lines of your post - feel free to correct me) that you can think yourself gay or straight.

There is a lot of interesting brain research, but unless somebody's come up with a fundamental difference between gay and straight brains none of it is relevant to the issue of homosexuality.

[DallasApple]

Hey ya'll...sorry..I just called up my friend who has fertility issues and told her to tell her husband to stop saving up money to have one of her eggs removed and succesfully fertalized with her husbands sperm in a petri dish and then implanted using "technology" into her body or GOD FORBID a surrogate.....That is complety unatural being that they cant concieve without the "aid of technology"...completely not in line with nature..So they are just out of luck ..too bad for them.

Blessings

Dallas

[Alceste]

Originally Posted by rheff78

But I guess getting back to the OP, in Christianity (with the exception of I think the Episcopals) we are against the ACT of homosexuality. I think most religions throughout the world are pretty much in line with this.

I posted a link a few pages ago to a site with a run-down on world religions and homosexuality. Here it is again for your reference:

Originally Posted by Alceste

Right, well, getting back to the question of religion and homosexuality, I've found a pretty good online resource for you, Andrew (if you're still around).

Homosexuality and Religion - ReligionFacts

A quick tally of the articles would suggest the best religious choice for a gay man would be Ancient Greek Polytheism. You're OK with most forms of Buddhism, but it's touch and go with Vajrayana (Tibetan). Christians don't have a coherent position - some sects will condemn you for it (ie. the Westboro Baptist Church) while others (ie. the United Church, Anglicans, and the Metropolitan Community Church) have no problem with it. Hinduism is OK with it, but you'll want to steer clear of Islam and Judaism. Sikhism is touch and go.

Hope that helps! My suggestion would be to go ahead and try believing in God if you feel you must, then if you want some company in your God-worshipping, try to find a congregation that loves and accepts you as you are.

[DallasApple]

Along those lines?..My freind has no fallopian tubes..Its litterally impossible for her to concieve.Since she was in her early 20's..So when she and her husband got married thier sexual life was strickly 100% for pleasure and pair bonding.

I mean come on..every woman who has sex after memopause and every man that has sex with a woman post menopause is havign sex for recreation only..But its o.k for them to have pleasure and comfort and love because they are opposite sex I suppose.

Blessings

Dallas

[Rolling_Stone]

Originally Posted by Alceste

It changes the implication that this experiment has implications for homosexuality if there is no measurable difference between a "gay" brain and a "straight" one.

There are...and gay activists made it an issue.

[DallasApple]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

No, you're wrong on both counts. There are millions of Christians right here in the United States, possibly the majority, who have no problem with homosexuality by either sex. Indeed, there is an entire mainstream Christian Church with a special outreach to this community, the Metropolitan Community Church. So you had best speak for yourself, not for all Christians.
Further, as I've said here many times, there is no possible reasonable interpretation of scripture that condemns lesbianism. Unlike say marriage after divorce, which is clearly prohibited.

Well I guess you wouldnt be shocked to know there are many Chirstians who believe anyone (Chirstian couple that is) who divorces for WHATEVER reason are not free to remarry untill their ex spouse dies.And that if they do both parties are living in daily adultery..

So if for instance I divorce my husband for committing adultery..(Jesus said thats the one reason I can)...If I remarry before my husband dies..Myself and my new husband are living in daily sin..Perpetual adultery..The only true way to 'repent" is to divorce (legally) my second husband ..Apparrently that divorce wouldnt be a sin because it was only a legal matter rather then a true marriage covenant in Gods eyes..

Blessings

Dallas

[fantôme profane]

Originally Posted by rheff78

why was sex invented?

Cell phones were invented, sex was not.

But if it was could you imagine holding the patent rights?

Originally Posted by DallasApple

What about people who choose to live a life of abstinence??..Wouldnt that go against nature as well?...Supressing thier "natural" sexual urges altogether?..Not using thier sexual organs for reproduction or pleasuure?.>>(its original design and for what it was intended for?)

Using the line of thinking that if everyone was homosexual the human race would cease to exist therefore its wrong/against nauture ..then people who abstain from sex all together pose just as much of a "threat' to humanity as homosexuals...

In fact Paul the apostle wished that everyone would abstain like him...from how I interpreted him he knew it was an impossiblity that everyone would be like him able to control their burning desires so go ahead and get married rather than burn.

But in fact had we all taken his advice that its better to remain a virgin the human race would have ended long ago...

Love

Dallas

I really have nothing to add to this, I just wanted to quote it so people would get a second chance to read it.

[DallasApple]

Heres the hypocritcal part..I have run into quite a few Christian men that have divorced their wife specifically over her not having sex "for pleasure" only..How they "got away with it" with a clean conscience is declaring her an "unbeliever discontent to dwell in the marriage"..being that she was living in sin by her refusal not to engage in sex at all...or not often enough..Because PAUL SAID to not deny each other but for fasting and prayer in order to prevent the other from falling into tempataion and causing them to stumble and sin..

How they got away with running as fast as they could to find a new "bride(sex for pleasure partner) was stating that thier first wife in fact wasnt even a Christian..So their was no covenant in Gods eyes...

Blessings

Dallas

[DallasApple]

Originally Posted by fantôme profane

Cell phones were invented, sex was not.

But if it was could you imagine holding the patent rights?




I really have nothing to add to this, I just wanted to quote it so people would get a second chance to read it.

Thanks Fantome I appreciate that..

I do want to add though..Its clear Pauls concern was not to keep the human race alive..He knew that most of the population would be miserbale and not be able to stand going their entire lives without sex..He talked about "burning with desire"..That sounds like pure 100% horniness..And not denying each other but for fasting and for prayer???...Would not be a lot of time off for sex if one or the other or both wanted it..And in fact that advice was to prevent one or the other from becoming tempted to cheat(not becasue he wanted them to have one baby after the other)..(adn in fact he knew people will cheat and the cheating would also have been to get sexual pleasure NOT to have a baby)....

Love

Dallas