Homosexuality and Religion (Jesus Christ, agnostic, LDS, bible, God)

[Ashley-Yin]

Originally Posted by Andrew Steven Fawcett

I am a gay male, and at the moment I am an agnostic, but I am leaning towards believing in the existence of God. I want to know what different religions think of homosexuality is?

im going to asume your talking about the Christian god(although there are many gods similar to him).
in any case these thoughts may help.

only i can 'think' for myself, if i do not i am either unconscious or lacking my own free will. i am able to consider different realities and points of view.

only i can fully 'accept' who i am. i believe without doubt my characteristics are allowed to be because i consider them of value.

only i can 'understand' what makes me truly happy. and that is the purist of love and the purist compassion. i can grasp these concepts and will put them in to practice.

I consinder myself a Buddhist/Wiccan, so you can count on me to show you love and compassion.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by Ashley-Yin

im going to asume your talking about the Christian god(although there are many gods similar to him).
in any case these thoughts may help.

only i can 'think' for myself, if i do not i am either unconscious or lacking my own free will. i am able to consider different realities and points of view.

only i can fully 'accept' who i am. i believe without doubt my characteristics are allowed to be because i consider them of value.

only i can 'understand' what makes me truly happy. and that is the purist of love and the purist compassion. i can grasp these concepts and will put them in to practice.

I consinder myself a Buddhist/Wiccan, so you can count on me to show you love and compassion.

Representing like a responsible human being.

Please make copies, we need you walking, shining, sharing the beauty of compassionate responsibility from every soul. Peace to you!

to what extend should minority groups bend to the whims of the majority?

Bend? If a man was to say. 'it is my religion to hunt down homo's' ...... in your view this case holds water.

'we the people' are the majority and whether you think being an individual means that a single person can inflict adversities to others because they wish their individuality; well then a new species and game tags shall be available to the majority. (hunting parties)

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Bend? If a man was to say. 'it is my religion to hunt down homo's' ...... in your view this case holds water.

no, because just like the majority should not infringe upon and alientate the minorities, so too the minorities should not infringe upon the majority. in other words, people should live their own lives and let other people live theirs, without purposefully making it difficult for them.

'we the people' are the majority and whether you think being an individual means that a single person can inflict adversities to others because they wish their individuality; well then a new species and game tags shall be available to the majority. (hunting parties)

no, i don't think anyone should inflict adversities onto others... and calling them unnatural is doing just that.

what the hell does hunting parties have to do with anything?

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by Mike182

no, because just like the majority should not infringe upon and alientate the minorities, so too the minorities should not infringe upon the majority. in other words, people should live their own lives and let other people live theirs, without purposefully making it difficult for them.

If a man can suck a golf ball through a garden house at 20 paces; that's is his perogative but no one on the street needs to know that is what he does.

Be gay (happy) all you like but NO, it is not OK to make the 'abnormal' public.

no, i don't think anyone should inflict adversities onto others... and calling them unnatural is doing just that.

Nobody called YOU 'abe normelle' but maybe some of the 'acts' you choose are. This is the problem; some idiots think it is a right to flaunt their 'gaydom' and that is the ill regard to others, period!

what the hell does hunting parties have to do with anything?

Like a turkey hunter...... when the feathers are ruffled while the turkey is flaunting his sexual prowness in the open, they are usually the ones shot at.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Be gay (happy) all you like but NO, it is not OK to make the 'abnormal' public.

So what exactly is this "normal" that you speak of?

Nobody called YOU 'abe normelle' but maybe some of the 'acts' you choose are. This is the problem; some idiots think it is a right to flaunt their 'gaydom' and that is the ill regard to others, period!

Calling someone abnormal and calling their acts abnormal are the exact same thing. I don't see a point in separating the two...

Like a turkey hunter...... when the feathers are ruffled while the turkey is flaunting his sexual prowness in the open, they are usually the ones shot at.

It's also called hunting in hunting season, which happens to line up with their mating season. And that's what they do in mating season, find a mate! How else do you want them to do it?

Plus, most trophy hunters are going to go after the biggest specimens they can find, male or female.

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

If a man can suck a golf ball through a garden house at 20 paces; that's is his perogative but no one on the street needs to know that is what he does.

Be gay (happy) all you like but NO, it is not OK to make the 'abnormal' public.

Nobody called YOU 'abe normelle' but maybe some of the 'acts' you choose are. This is the problem; some idiots think it is a right to flaunt their 'gaydom' and that is the ill regard to others, period!

Like a turkey hunter...... when the feathers are ruffled while the turkey is flaunting his sexual prowness in the open, they are usually the ones shot at.

again, like i said on the other thread, this sanctimonious crap disgusts me.

gays have ever right to show their homosexuality in society, hell, at times it has been (and still at times is) needed to draw attention to discrimination and persecution.

i would write out a post detailing cases of such times, but it will be totally lost on your ignorant position that is unlikely to change. i will save myself the effort, some battles just aren't worth it.

[Bishadi]

words are about conveying information.

Defining the words is where universal acceptance maintains equality of usage and understanding.

In biology, mating is the pairing of opposite-sex or hermaphroditic internal fertilization animals for copulation and, in social animals, also to raise their offspring

so such another term

In behavior, normal refers to a lack of significant deviation from the average. The phrase "not normal" is often applied in a negative sense (asserting that someone or some situation is improper, sick, etc.). Abnormality varies greatly in how pleasant or unpleasant this is for other people; somebody may half-jokingly be called "pleasantly disturbed".

So which is it now; are we defining nature, words, definition and the honesty behind describing each............ for a few who are predetermined to the purpose of 'self' over the majority?

Trying to be compassionate but the first contingency is honesty and form reason, a few on this thread just can't get passed themselves to care about others over and above themselves.

Compassion is an understanding of the emotional state of another or oneself. Not to be confused with empathy, compassion is often combined with a desire to alleviate or reduce the suffering of another or to show special kindness to those who suffer. However, compassion may lead an individual to feel empathy with another person.
Compassion is often characterized through actions, wherein a person acting with compassion will seek to aid those they feel compassionate for. Acts of compassion are generally considered those which take into account the pain of others and attempt to alleviate that pain. In this sense, the various forms of the Golden Rule are in part based on the concept of compassion, if also on the concept of empathy.
Compassion differs from other forms of helpful or humane behavior in that its focus is primarily on the alleviation of pain and suffering

OTHERS FIRST!

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by Bishadi