Muslim's treatment of the Jews (minority, prophet, eternal, Israel)

[gnomon]

In 1917 there were Jewish Palestinians, Christian Palestinians, Druze Palestinans and Muslim Palestinians. Palestine was a district created by the British and the British rule over Palestine was created by the League of Nations. Palestine was originally created by the Romans to describe a political region.

Regards,
Scott

Correct.

Palestine was nothing more than a geographical location created by the Romans around 200-220 C.E. after a failed Jewish rebellion. At which point many were killed, many put into slavery, many left to join the diaspora communities, the temple was destroyed....not an arab in sight. The term Palestine went out of use with the Crusaders.

Until the British revived it. Of course, much of the British Palestine now exists as Jordan.

Interestingly, neither of the competing parties for "Palestine" have that much of a legitimate historical claim. Since the Canaanites, Moabites, Edomites, Assyrians, Greeks, Samaritans, etc. are all pretty much gone.....

Remember the Philistines, anyone? The greek people who occupied the land now known as Gaza well before the Hebrews and definitely well before the Arabs. Those who actually founded some of those settlements along the coast.

Alas Kurdistan. If only the Turks were Jewish.

[Popeyesays]

Syria extended much deeper into the interior in those days, it stayed independent even while Rome controlled Israel and Judea.

Regards,
Scott

[gnomon]

Originally Posted by capslockf9

It can be uncreated.
Just as simple as the land was taken from the palestinians. Part of Texas can be given to them. Or maybe part of Germany. Or maybe part of Canada. And move 'em there.

Unfortunately most of the Western world didn't want them in the early 20th century. Hence, the support of immigration to "Palestine" from the Western powers. It's not like they moved into prime real estate, either.

[kai]

Originally Posted by gnomon

Unfortunately most of the Western world didn't want them in the early 20th century. Hence, the support of immigration to "Palestine" from the Western powers. It's not like they moved into prime real estate, either.

its a little older than that

In 1882 immigration, called Aliyah (ascent) by Jews, started in earnest. Most immigrants came from Eastern Europe, where anti-semitism was rampant.

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[sindbad5]

Ringer,
every word about how tyrants in islamic countries kill muslims are true, sadly, most islamic countries are fallen in a deep hole of dictators, see what's happening in iraq? kurdistan? darfur? etc.

but these facts are not an excuse to not to condemn israel atrocities against palestinians,

in fact the existance of israel itself (besides oil) make it appealing to westren government to support those tyrants and dictators who are easy to be blackmailed and to control.

remember saddam, who was the most one supported from the west when he was killing muslims in iran? no one talked about his crimes against kurds or shi'a, what happened when he though attacking kuwit will not make him loose westren support as the previous atrocites?

did islamic world has problems? yes
did westren governments share in creating these problems? yes
did israel are an illegal occupation? yes

[Popeyesays]

Originally Posted by sindbad5

Ringer,
every word about how tyrants in islamic countries kill muslims are true, sadly, most islamic countries are fallen in a deep hole of dictators, see what's happening in iraq? kurdistan? darfur? etc.

but these facts are not an excuse to not to condemn israel atrocities against palestinians,

in fact the existance of israel itself (besides oil) make it appealing to westren government to support those tyrants and dictators who are easy to be blackmailed and to control.

remember saddam, who was the most one supported from the west when he was killing muslims in iran? no one talked about his crimes against kurds or shi'a, what happened when he though attacking kuwit will not make him loose westren support as the previous atrocites?

did islamic world has problems? yes
did westren governments share in creating these problems? yes
did israel are an illegal occupation? yes

Israel has no oil to export, they voluntarily gave up their only commercial oilfield when they returned the Sinai.

Yes, the Islamic world has problems and good points.

Western nations have shared in creating and resolving problems in all nations. Colonialism left stains.

Israel is not an illegal occupation as it is the result of a legal act. If it was illegal to establish Israel it was illegal to establish Jordan.

Regards,
Scott

[Popeyesays]

Originally Posted by kai

its a little older than that

In 1882 immigration, called Aliyah (ascent) by Jews, started in earnest. Most immigrants came from Eastern Europe, where anti-semitism was rampant.

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Til the fourth decade of the nineteenth century it was illegal for Jews to return to Israel, under the laws of the SUltanate of Turkey the Toleration Edicts changed the laws of eight hundred years.

Regards,
Scott

[rhys]

Originally Posted by kai

correct--------- along with Syria and Lebanon

Possibly. I thought that 'Syria', at least, was in normal use throughout. All these states are obviously colonialist creations, divisions of the Arabia that should, in a sensible world, include all these states and border on a much larger Kurdistan, while the western bits of Asia Minor joined Europe. Alas, we do not live in a sensible world!

[kai]

well they would like you to think its all britains fault but it has a chequered history to say the least

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