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Old 01-26-2008, 09:33 PM
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Well, Schrodinger tells us to finalize the state of being of the cat by looking in the box. Trying to finalize what God is is more difficult. First, you have no idea where to look for the box. Second, if you could find it, it won't open.

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Old 01-26-2008, 10:52 PM
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But is the appearance of God force/influence the same as the force/influence of God?
I think it may as well be. We know "God" as at least a concept. And concepts act as influential powers because we give them power.

Especially when studying them as an influence in history, because we can define the concept and what we will look for in terms of that concept, and evaluate the reactions of people to that concept.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:45 AM
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Re the force image: 'Anthropomorphize' is to give God a human form. Why is it better to give God a force form than a human form?
To give God a human form or image is to make God crazy, as we are crazy. And that invites all sort of irrational and unhealthy issues into the "relationship".
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Love.
Yes. I choose to believe that the nature of existence is generous, and this generosity is an expression of love. I consider love a 'force' because love needs to express itself.
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Old 01-27-2008, 07:09 AM
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I've heard Christians say God is a verb.

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I've heard Christians say God is a verb.
True. This comes from St Tomas Aquinas, who argues that since God cannot have potentiality like contingent things, he must consist purely of action. God is love that acts.
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Old 01-27-2008, 08:05 AM
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God is a force in the sense that the concept of god is physiological and forces people to do things that normal people wouldn't, if that's what you mean?
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I've heard Christians say God is a verb.

Take that however you will.
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True. This comes from St Tomas Aquinas, who argues that since God cannot have potentiality like contingent things, he must consist purely of action. God is love that acts.
Is there any difference, then, between the force and God? Any at all?
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For me it really depends as I believe in 2 different levels of Gods or divinity rather. The first level is that I believe that all the Gods of all the religions that are and have been exist. These Gods are spirit beings. Their souls have evolved so that they no longer require a body in order to evolve further and I view them much in the same way the ancient Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, etc. viewed their Gods. Very powerful but still having many human traits and thus subject to human emotions and faults and thus are just as capable of love, compassion, and wisdom as they are of corruption deciet, and jealousy. These Gods I view as our teachers and mentors whose job is to guide us on our spiritual journies. And just like classroom teachers there are good ones and bad ones and mediocre ones and the same teaching methods don't work on every student. Hence why there are so many different God's and religions. The second level of Gods that I believe in are forces. These consist of Love, Hate, Justice, corruption... any emotion, feeling, subjective or objective concept all exist as different forces that are within and without everything including the secondary Gods. They make up our souls and are responsible not just for the creation but the very existence of the universe and everything in it. So for me the Gods are both beings and forces. as beings they are teachers and as forces they are creators and mantainers
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Yes, and that's why Mary is so special. She is the only human being that God the Son is bound by his own Law ("honor thy mother and father") to give honor to.
This certainly is a strange philosophy.
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