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Old 05-10-2008, 04:04 PM
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Ok, Ymir tell me about reincarntion and pure conscieouness. Actually I thought you were Christian, I guess I am wrong.
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But, anyone knows that Islam does not believe in reincarnation. They also do not believe in the Bahai Faith.




Scott: "And . . . . . .?"

Drew: I know that the Bahai Faith is an established religion, if it was not an established religion, if Abdul-baha has not come to the west to spread the Bahai teachings, it could not have been part of the Greatest Sign, most likely, we would not have heard about Bahai. Also, because of the violent situation Bab was in, God made Bahaullah a prophet. Bahaullah changed many things from the Bab's teachings, and the religion became the non-violent Bahai Faith we know today. If Bahaullah had not changed things we again might not have heard of these teachings becuase the Babis were almost completely destroyed. And that is why Maitreya has explained, as the Fifth Church it says, "I see thy works are not perfect before God", because Bab's teachings were being wiped out with great violence from Babis and Moslems. So God foretold this situation in Revelation in the bible so that we could understand when the Seventh Angel is here.


go to Mission Of Maitreya, "Eternal DIvine Path" for more info
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Old 05-10-2008, 04:31 PM
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Scott: "I'm sorry you are getting misleading information about Islam and the Qur'an."

Drew: Islam does not believe in reincarnation, so how could I get any information at all?
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"Abdu'l Baha's role is like Peter's role--not to be the Messenger b ut the one left in authoirty for interpretation after the passing of the Messenger."


Ya, and you will take any the writings of any of the disciples of Esa and say they are referring to Bahaullah, but get a christian to believe you is another thing.
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In the mean time I totally explained reincarnation using Maitreya's quotes. Who is understanding what Abdul-baha is saying?
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In the mean time I totally explained reincarnation using Maitreya's quotes. Who is understanding what Abdul-baha is saying?
Frankly, besides me you're not generating a lot of response. Personally, I find maitreya's ramblings to be gibberish, and poorly written at that. The Qur'anic references show absolutely no understanding of "Judgment Day" as professed in Islam at all.

I take Maitreya as seriously as that Imperial margerine photo you posted once upon a long time ago.

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Thank you for responding Scott. If it were not for you I would be doing hardly any talking on RF.

Scott: " besides me you're not generating a lot of response."

Maybe you should get out more often, because RF is only one of many, if not thousands of forums, and I always get some sort of response. That is why I am away from RF so much, because I get so busy at other forums talking about Maitreya I have no time.

But, true Scott, you are great for the continued talk, that I do apprieciate.
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Here is picture of Maitreya in 1982 just before he finished THOTH.



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Better picture for sure. Though it's going on thirty years ago it was taken.

Other forums, which ones?

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Ok, Ymir tell me about reincarntion and pure conscieouness. Actually I thought you were Christian, I guess I am wrong.
Hehe. You want me to explain reincarnation in a few sentences? That is amusing. As to consciousness, anyone who actually experiences consciousness to any significant degree will tell you that the term "pure consciousness" is mere baffle-gab. Consciousness IS... pureness is a trivial irrelevance and using it as an adjective promotes the idea that somehow consciousness can be adulterated, which is less than meaningful to say the least.


Consciousness is a bubble you mold your perception of reality around. Likewise consciousness is like the rings produced by a stone tossed into a pond, as consciousness is continually expanding beyond what it was.

Reincarnation is a fact that is not necessary to believe in. Realizing reincarnation does not actually help the individual as much as it could due to the human animal's current fixation on its own form of intellectual understanding, largely focused on empirical evidence.

Due to erroneous notion of the nature of time, there are no “past” or “future” lives, as all exist simultaneously, in a “spacious present” with each aspect following their own interests and desires. The access “point” between personalities (aspects) can be gained through the “now” point within meditation, waking moments and dreams.

To draw an allusion, the multitudinous “aspects” or “personalities” radiate outward from the core identity, the entity, if you will, although many insist on calling it the soul resplendent in all sorts of religious baggage that is for the most part, completely unnecessary. The only way I can image this back to you is to think of what cosmologists call a super-massive, densely pack globular cluster, as that is simply the way it appears to me, although I could be seeing it wrong.

This image of M87 is quite satisfactory a representation. Remember this is an allusion and not meant quite literally, as the real thing is a bit hard to describe... easy to understand, but difficult to describe as there is little in the physical universe that captures it as well as the image of the cluster.



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