Isn't Islam an idol worshiping religion? (Jesus, Creator, creation, theist)

[K.Venugopal]

I contend that Islam is an idol worshiping religion. When I say this, it would be surmised that I am out to create mischief because it is universally understood that Islam is dead against idol worship. But I do not level this charge to taunt Muslims out of any spite. I love Muslims. They are as human as anyone else. My problem is with the claim of Islam that it does not believe in idol worship.

In fact all worship is idol worship. It is not possible to worship except that worship be idol worship. The condition of idol worship is that there be a worshipper and a thing worshiped. Muslims might say that there is no “thing” that a Muslim worships. That what they worship is only the unimaginable power called Allah who created the universe. Be it so, except that they have a need to reduce that unimaginable power to a word “Allah”. A sound idol, I might say and the Muslim will say I am merely quibbling to provoke.

However, my deeper reason to declare Muslims to be the idol worshipers they would rather die than admit is that Islam considers Allah, the creator, as separate from His creation. This means that when we, the creation or creature want to connect with Allah, we have perforce to turn outwards – ever so symbolically seen when the common Muslim raises his vision upwards when he wishes to thank Allah in ordinary conversation. Of course in formal prayers Muslims turn towards Mecca – which becomes the central point to which they direct their prayers. Add to this the fact that the central point contains a huge cube structure, which if the Muslims can get near enough they would lavishly kiss, completes the case that the Muslims are indeed idol worshippers.

The case becomes all the more apparent when we consider that there is a successful ancient teaching called Adviata which even today continues to be the undercurrent of the oldest religion in the world – Hinduism. Advaita says that God is actually what we essentially are and is not a phenomenon separate from us whom we have to seek for outside and idolize concretely, as Hindu idol-worshippers do - or turn into a faith, as Muslims do.

[Sunstone]

An interesting point of view. Not sure I agree with you, but interesting. Welcome to the Forum!

[not4me]

No, Islam isn't an idol worshiping religion.
Welcome!

[Sunstone]

How are you defining "idolatry"?

[MidnightBlue]

I checked yes because I think that's the correct answer, but I can't imagine any reason for singling Islam out from the other Abrahamic religions. In my view, the idols we make in our minds are every bit as deceptive and illusory as idols made of metal or stone, and almost always more so. I think Islam is idolatrous because Muslims fall into the delusion that the god they imagine corresponds to the Eternal. I think the same applies to all the Abrahamic religions, not just Islam.

[Salaam]

lol... no, Islam isnt an idol worshipping religion, I think you may have it confused with catholic religion.

but anyway, the reason why Muslism faceMekka while praying is because Ibrahim(pbuh) built the House of Mekka under God Himself's orders, God sent down a black stone fro mthe heavens to the exact spot that Ibrahim was to build the House at, and this i swhere the black stone came from, scientists have indeed confirmed that teh black stone which sits at the House of God is indeed an out of this world object, it is from space, a meteorite.

and to call God Allah, is much more God;ly than anything else, becasue if you knew anything of history, you would understand that Jesus(pbuh) HIMSELF called God by teh name of "Allaha", now was Jesus an idol worshipper for callign God "Allaha"?

Jesus called God Allaha, Muslism call God Allah, lol... do you see the resemblance smart guy?

anyway, that is where the word Allah even came from, the Aramaic word for God, "Allaha", it has nothing to do with ido lworship, infact, Arab Christians call God "Allah" as well.

[rocketman]

Originally Posted by Salaam

lol... no, Islam isnt an idol worshipping religion, I think you may have it confused with catholic religion.

Catholics may have their trinkets, but then so do most religions. Doesn't mean they are idol worshippers.

Do Catholics Worship Statues?

Originally Posted by Salaam

Jesus called God Allaha,

Right. Here's some trivia for you: Allah and it's aramaic predecessor is a descriptor, not a proper name. YHWH was the name of God that Jesus knew but as a Jew it wasn't something they regularly said out loud at that time. Compare the original greek of Mark 12:29 with the original hebrew of Deut 6:4,5 for example. Of-course the use of the descriptor Allah (literally "The God") by Mulims in a monotheistic sense is not idol worship if they are referring to the Jewish Diety.

Originally Posted by Salaam

do you see the resemblance smart guy?

There is no need to adopt this tone.

[Don Penguinoini]

Black stone, anyone?