Does anything actually matter at all? (experience, atheist, bible, worship)

[frg001]

Ok. First of all I am an atheist, so from my viewpoint, there is no afterlife, saviour, heaven etc etc.

Now given that, and maybe I should address this purely to atheists, but for now, maybe not, lets's give it a try on an open forum... Although I really don't want any bible/koran quotes/arguments please?

Anyway back to the point...

Does ANYTHING matter?

We spend our lives worrrying about possesions... Money...Cars, bikes, clothes, computers, mobile phones, hairstyles etc.
People... Friends and family, our neighbours, the locallity, the country, the world, poverty.
The planet... Polution, population, resources, greenhouse gases, global warming etc.
We elect governments, or live under dictatorship.
We believe in deities and worship them, or not.
We are born, and we die
The planet has been around for maybe 4 or 5 billion years, and will be around for a while yet.
But when it dies, then the galaxy will be 99.9999999999etc % unchanged.

We are irrelevant. People are irrelevant. Animals, plants, the days and nights...are of (almost) zero relevance when it comes to the galaxy, never mind the universe.

Or what?

[rocketman]

Are the people you love irrelevant? Are you irrelevant to the people who love you? Maybe some things do matter. Maybe this life is not all that there is. Maybe the fact that you are asking means that deep down you can imagine situations that do matter.

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by frg001

Does ANYTHING matter?

Why do you ask?

[methylatedghosts]

Originally Posted by frg001

Does ANYTHING matter?

Conversly - Does everything NOT matter?

While it may seem that nothing really matters in the greatest scheme of things - that we are a seemingly insignificant blip in the entirety of existance - you can make it matter for you.

It's about making it all relative to who you are. Maybe the question should not be "Does it matter in comparison to the rest of the universe?" because you are never going to experience the entire universe. Make it relative to what you experience and who you are in relation to that. Make the question instead; "Does this matter in relation to who I am?"

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by frg001

Does ANYTHING matter?

Yup. Anything matters, just as much as, and in the same way that, nothing matters.

Originally Posted by frg001

We are irrelevant. People are irrelevant. Animals, plants, the days and nights...are of (almost) zero relevance when it comes to the galaxy, never mind the universe.

Or what?

Are you irrelevant to you?

[Seyorni]

Here in the material world, things matter a great deal.

Ultimately, though, it's all just a dream.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by frg001

Ok. First of all I am an atheist, so from my viewpoint, there is no afterlife, saviour, heaven etc etc.

Now given that, and maybe I should address this purely to atheists, but for now, maybe not, lets's give it a try on an open forum... Although I really don't want any bible/koran quotes/arguments please?

Anyway back to the point...

Does ANYTHING matter?

We spend our lives worrrying about possesions... Money...Cars, bikes, clothes, computers, mobile phones, hairstyles etc.
People... Friends and family, our neighbours, the locallity, the country, the world, poverty.
The planet... Polution, population, resources, greenhouse gases, global warming etc.
We elect governments, or live under dictatorship.
We believe in deities and worship them, or not.
We are born, and we die
The planet has been around for maybe 4 or 5 billion years, and will be around for a while yet.
But when it dies, then the galaxy will be 99.9999999999etc % unchanged.

We are irrelevant. People are irrelevant. Animals, plants, the days and nights...are of (almost) zero relevance when it comes to the galaxy, never mind the universe.

Or what?

Well you forgot a few things in your post, a few things like: that first kiss on the doorstep, hearing your child scream for the first time, watching the spring lillies open toward the sun, ocean waves, a pitch black middle of Utah night and how bright the Milky Way looks, kittens, the latest song you've learned most of the words to, a three point jumpshot that beats the buzzer...

Is it all irrelevant? I guess it just depends on your view.

But if it's all irrelevant then it wouldn't be here. I know you don't believe in anything other than what is satisfactorily explained to you but there really is a purpose behind it all, it's just a bit beyond us at the moment. Think of a young child that cries because the vaccine shots hurt. They just don't understand how important they are, yet...

[Sunstone]

Originally Posted by frg001

Ok. First of all I am an atheist, so from my viewpoint, there is no afterlife, saviour, heaven etc etc.

Now given that, and maybe I should address this purely to atheists, but for now, maybe not, lets's give it a try on an open forum... Although I really don't want any bible/koran quotes/arguments please?

Anyway back to the point...

Does ANYTHING matter?

We spend our lives worrrying about possesions... Money...Cars, bikes, clothes, computers, mobile phones, hairstyles etc.
People... Friends and family, our neighbours, the locallity, the country, the world, poverty.
The planet... Polution, population, resources, greenhouse gases, global warming etc.
We elect governments, or live under dictatorship.
We believe in deities and worship them, or not.
We are born, and we die
The planet has been around for maybe 4 or 5 billion years, and will be around for a while yet.
But when it dies, then the galaxy will be 99.9999999999etc % unchanged.

We are irrelevant. People are irrelevant. Animals, plants, the days and nights...are of (almost) zero relevance when it comes to the galaxy, never mind the universe.

Or what?

Do you seriously feel you must be relevant to the universe for your life to have meaning?

[Luke_17:2]

If you're an Atheist, then no.

Nothing matters.
Nothing to live for.
The sooner you die the sooner we decrease the surplus population.