The Role of God (Earth, paradise, contradiction, creation, eternal)

[rocketman]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

- we are told that sloth and avarice are sins, but are given an image of an afterlife paradise filled with treasure and free from toil.

Where does it say that in the christian scriptures?

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

- we are told to be kind and compassionate to others, but are supposed to rejoice at the prospect of unbelievers being cast off into eternal suffering.

Where does it say that in the christian scriptures?

[cardero]

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

And God just sits quietly by?

dust1n writes: he sits quietly by on alot things, eh?

Really? Because GOD always seemed like a vocal movie-goer to me.

[dust1n]

Originally Posted by logician

It's much more likley that Xianity is man-made myth that Satanic trickery.

The creators of religion benefit from religion, while the followers lose.

[dust1n]

Originally Posted by cardero

Really? Because GOD always seemed like a vocal movie-goer to me.

So.. You are saving just watches the movie then bitches about the plot?

[rocketman]

Originally Posted by dust1n

The creators of religion benefit from religion, while the followers lose.

That is often true. And so is the opposite.

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

Originally Posted by dust1n

I was playing in my head the other day, and I thought...

Isn't it entirely possible that Satan is so good on his trickery that the entire Christian faith is actually following him right now? That the majority of the literature was his fabrication, the logic was of his creation, seems like something Satan would do. ANd if God let Satan pull off all the **** that he supposedly gets to pull off, why would this not be allowed?

I've always thought it would be interesting to get Satan's side of the story on all that's in the Bible. I mean, if he he is this great deceiver, something somewhere would fall through. Right? I mean, it's not as if the Bible's current POV is exactly consistent.

Of course, if the Bible is indeed Satan's work of trickery, it'd be nice to know what he really has to say about everything.

If he actually existed.

[dust1n]

Originally Posted by Mercy Not Sacrifice

I've always thought it would be interesting to get Satan's side of the story on all that's in the Bible. I mean, if he he is this great deceiver, something somewhere would fall through. Right? I mean, it's not as if the Bible's current POV is exactly consistent.

Of course, if the Bible is indeed Satan's work of trickery, it'd be nice to know what he really has to say about everything.

If he actually existed.

Yes, if he actually existed.

I mean, obviously if Lucifer did have somethin to say, and it was obviously "evil", then why do they hide all of his concepts and input.

God could be the government.
Satan could be the ethical revolution.
And when God won the revolution,
God hid the truth.

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

Exactly. If God is so much stronger than the devil, why have a patented effort to shut Satan up?

[cardero]

Originally Posted by dust1n

So.. You are saving just watches the movie then bitches about the plot?

I do not believe that GOD critiques our lives. I don't think GOD prefers particular actors or directors.

Back to the OP, I've always thought that if there is a Satan, that this BEing would prefer that people use faith when dealing with a GOD of Truth. If one is continually encouraged to practice, defend and preserve faith, then it is safe to assume that this BEing doesn't want anyone to know and conclude Truth.

[dust1n]

Originally Posted by cardero

I do not believe that GOD critiques our lives. I don't think GOD prefers particular actors or directors.

Back to the OP, I've always thought that if there is a Satan, that this BEing would prefer that people use faith when dealing with a GOD of Truth. If one is continually encouraged to practice, defend and preserve faith, then it is safe to assume that this BEing doesn't want anyone to know and conclude Truth.

I'm lost because I went through two different scenarios with people I don't know which example you are using.

But if Evil Satan had people tricked into his religion, on which the Bible, the christian ethics, and the whole sha-bang, then he wouldn't want the so called "Devil's" opinion to be known, because they would be hiding the truth (agreed.)

But with Revolutionary Satan that I was talking to another person in response to the concept he through out there, then Good Satan would want people to know the truth, and God hides it, calls him evil, says that lucifer can influence people by making them doing the shitty things people tend to do, when really that's the effect of "religion" on the braindead society call America, and Lucifer's influence sparks curiousity, free-thought, such for.. which are things that hurt the religion.

Hypotechical situations I was flopping around in my brain.


Of course both are improbably.. since both God's existence under the Christian standard, and Satan do not exist.

Only government.