VERY interesting video - origin of religions (Jesus Christ, crucifixion, virgin)

[Apex]

Originally Posted by BalanceFx

Jehovah Witnesses believe it was a stake... not a cross. I believe people were crucified... but the tale of Jesus and his 12 Apostles... That one has no proof. Unless you call the bible proof. And the proof that is the bible is enough for you. Its not for me.

I could care less if someone believes in Jesus or not, but you do not have to be overly obnoxious or arrogant about it.

[BalanceFx]

Originally Posted by Apex

I could care less if someone believes in Jesus or not, but you do not have to be overly obnoxious or arrogant about it.

Saying the bible is not proof enough for me is obnoxious???? It also might rain later. (Its just as obnoxious)

[Draka]

Originally Posted by Apex

I could care less if someone believes in Jesus or not, but you do not have to be overly obnoxious or arrogant about it.

How was that statement obnoxious???

[BalanceFx]

Originally Posted by Draka

How was that statement obnoxious???

It wasn't but I was quoted as being obnoxious and arrogant...

[Draka]

Originally Posted by BalanceFx

It wasn't but I was quoted as being obnoxious and arrogant...

i saw, and that's what I don't understand.

[Somkid]

Originally Posted by Tau

That video was not harmful or hateful, merely a point of view, if you are offended by that video then you are pathetic.
If you would sacrifice your right to obtain information, as that is what it was, to protect the peace then you deserve neither.
A pro christian government would have made that decision not a secular one...look out!

Someone might post and say 'Hmmm what about weaponry or bomb making information?' so I will just say now, use your common sense...if you can't distiguish the difference between that and a point of view then get back in your mother's womb coz your not ready.

First of all I would like to say I am an American I just live here because I have the freedom to chose where I live and worse case is I get deported to JFK in NYC an hour from my Fathers home.

Any one who believes in any kind of freedom would never make a statement like you don't deserve it but rather say something to the point of all people deserve it.

This particular video wasn't blocked, you tube in general was because it is a protest of the people by the people and set in motion by the government. The Thai government asked you tube to remove some nasty things about Thailand and the King and they agreed but did nothing thus the people agreed as a protest to block you tube, The idiot that originally posted the nasty video bashing Thailand and the King was from Holland and I say idiot because he posted it here in Thailand was promptly arrested for his own safety from the people that wanted to tear him apart, given a full pardon from the King and asked never to return to Thailand and promptly deported.

This is a Buddhist country 95% of the population is Buddhist so, I'm not sure what you mean by Christian government. We do not insult each other or try to hurt the feelings of others that would be un-Buddhist and yes, we would do what is necessary to preserve peace, love and compassion. The only thing that was pathetic was your response to me and if you are a Christian that was very un-Christian.

[Darkness]

Originally Posted by logican

Of course, the whole Jesus story is a fable, along with the idea that his method of death had to be on a cross.

I find the Jesus was a myth idea to be somewhat lacking. I can find no reasonable motive to completely fabricate the story. It makes more sense for the Gospels to be a sensationalized version of the truth.

[Apex]

Originally Posted by BalanceFx

It wasn't but I was quoted as being obnoxious and arrogant...

I wasn't talking about you, I was making a general statement.

[idea]

Originally Posted by Dirty Penguin

I'm not sure this is correct. I think these deities are mentioned in history (before ) Yeshua was mentioned/wrote about.





Again.. this is an interesting thought considering all of this was thousands of years before they wrote about Yeshua.




Is tis something from the bible? If so where can I find it?



Is this something that can be found in your bible?





Is there something in the Old Testament that confirms this?

Yes - Jesus was in the beginning with God, Jesus helped form the Earth.
Jesus is the word
- John :
1 IN the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were amade by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jesus is not just in the NT - Every prophet in the OT teaches about Jesus, all of their temple work etc... are done in anticipation of Him. The plan was in place before the foundation of the world.

if you don't like the book of Moses It is in the Bible too. Adam walked with God, He knew who Jesus was. God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit predate any other creation accounts that exist, therefore all other accounts are merely relaying information from the original version of it... anyone want to play that party game where you wisper something to your neighbor, then they wisper it to the next person, and so on down the line - then in the end see how much the original statement has been changed? Same thing.