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Old 10-29-2007, 05:20 PM
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Only by your narrowly construed definition.

Often makes it easy to make broad claims in philosophy.

In essence, it tells us nothing. But your opinion.
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:25 PM
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Only by your narrowly construed definition.

Often makes it easy to make broad claims in philosophy.

In essence, it tells us nothing. But your opinion.
And that's different from any other definition, how?
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:36 PM
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And that's different from any other definition, how?
Not much. Just as long as you recognize that defining faith as trust in yourself holds no more validity in the definition of an atheist as on who hates God. Nor does your definition hold any meaning for those who use the term in reference to their faith in a higher power. In that sense, it loses all relationship with skepticism.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:07 PM
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Not much. Just as long as you recognize that defining faith as trust in yourself holds no more validity in the definition of an atheist as on who hates God. Nor does your definition hold any meaning for those who use the term in reference to their faith in a higher power. In that sense, it loses all relationship with skepticism.
Agreed on all counts.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:04 PM
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One must remember that in order to provde the freedom that accompanies believing and the respect that we should lend for other's beliefs, this validity must be granted.
You simply pervert the term 'valid'. Have fun with that ...
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:12 PM
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You simply pervert the term 'valid'.
Not all the definitions of it...
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When I read some of the posts by people who claim to have a faith in the weird and wonderful, and let's face it some of the faith stuff on here and forums like it, is pretty crazy, I opt for sceptism every time!

So you have no faith in Jesus Christ
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:54 PM
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Don't you think most people have skepticism toward something? You don't think all religious people are suckers do you?

What about 'Saved People?' There's a difference between religions but not being Saved by The Blood of The Lamb.
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