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A late night question.
Are the Garden of Eden and the Kingdom of God the same 'states?' Can we really get back to the Garden? Do we want to?
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Yes... in that both enjoy the presence of God. For me, that is the very definition/criteria of heaven. God's absence is the definition of hell!
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My favorite interpretation is that the "Cherubim weilding a flaming sword turning in every direction at once, barring the way to the tree of life" is the human mind; spinning in every direction at the same time, keeping us from realizing we're already in Eden/The Kingdom of God.
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And I dreamed I saw the bombers
Riding shotgun in the sky And they were turning into butterflies Above our nation We are stardust Billion year old carbon We are golden Caught in the devils bargain And weve got to get ourselves Back to the garden
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That's a comparison I would agree with, though I like the term "Garden" more than "Kingdom."
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So do I. "Kingdom" summons a more easily misunderstood imagery.
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But isn't there perhaps a distinctive difference between these two?
Why doesn't the NT use the analogy of the Garden if the two are interchangeable?
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Different authors. The NT was composed to work around the problem of a purported Messiah who wasn't an earthly king. The authors required this sort of imagery to sell the message.
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The Garden represents a primordial innocence, before we came to self-awareness. Can we really get back to that kind of state and remain human?
I like Quagmire's idea that our mind is the whirling twirling blade (he he, the philospher's knives), that keep us from reentering. We are now faced with conscious choice to Love and 'judge not.' Isn't this different from the Garden?
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