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Old 10-26-2007, 12:41 AM
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methylatedghosts, do you know what argumentum ad ignorantiam is? Do you understand why it's classified as a logical fallacy?
I must be missing something, I honestly don't see why...

And I haven't heard that term before - I haven't taken any logic classes...
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:55 AM
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I must be missing something, I honestly don't see why...

And I haven't heard that term before - I haven't taken any logic classes...
*psst* wikipedia.org
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:11 AM
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*psst* thanks Willamena!

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The argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam ("appeal to ignorance" [1]) or argument by lack of imagination, is a logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false or that a premise is false only because it has not been proven true.
Isn't that what I've been saying though?

"There is no evidence to suggest you have this disease."

is essentially equal to "there is no evidence to suggest god exists" is it not?

And from this lack of evidence you cannot conclude that
1) you don't have the disease
or
2) God does not exist.

Because there is lack of evidence for the other way around also....

(Or at least, according to some people)
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Isn't that what I've been saying though?
Good grief! Read it again ...
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:03 AM
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And from this lack of evidence you cannot conclude that
1) you don't have the disease
or
2) God does not exist.

I think he just wants you to finish it. Be complete.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:37 AM
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Ok, I apologise, I'm really slow in this thread. I'm missing a whole lot it seems =\

Explain exactly where I'm going wrong (And type slow, I can't read that fast if I need to pay extra attention! )
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An amusing little thread. I am scratching my head on a few issues however, two of which are:

1. "God" has never been proven to exist by any being that has ever lived, although many have ratttled on and on and on about their "invisible friends". The end result is that they only demonstrate that they persoanlly believe very deeply in the possibility of a "god" figure being as real (to them) as I believe my ashtray to be (to me). Then again, I can show you my ashtray.

*Holds up his favorite ashtray... inadvertently dumps ashtray into his lap*
"Damn!"
*Runs off to get the Dustbuster*

2. The other thing that gets me is the penchant of people to ascribe qualities to their invisible friend that are equally unprovable as their invisible friend is. Logically, I suppose there is no reason why they cannot do such a thing, but it does tend to stretch credulity. One may as well also claim that "god" struts about in pink tights and indigo wooly slippers for all the difference it makes as no one can prove that "he" does not. "He" is invisible, so who is to say? Who knows, perhaps to some, god is wearing a godly feather boa and has a penchant for "bling".

I guess what I am saying is, "Does any of this really matter in the slightest?" It isn't likely that we will ever know a definitive answer, so... what's the point?
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An amusing little thread. I am scratching my head on a few issues however, two of which are:?
I think youll be scratching for a long time lol.
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1. "God" has never been proven to exist The end result is that they only demonstrate that they persoanlly believe very deeply in the possibility of a "god" figure being as real (to them) as I believe my ashtray to be (to me). Then again, I can show you my ashtray.?
This is a seriously strange analogy.
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2. The other thing that gets me is the penchant of people to ascribe qualities to their invisible friend that are equally unprovable as their invisible friend is. Logically,
You wont understand but ill share it anyway, Ive seen many dreams that have
happened exactly as i saw them, and some ocured days latter, and some years
latter, this shows God Knows All things.
And if some built a house or a car or whatever, would'nt he have a blue print
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so... what's the point?
So whats your point? if i were next to you i'd like to poke you
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