Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[Tau]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Try not to overract.

You hurt a boy's feelings...what do you expect?



91 pages now...

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by mball1297

Yes, it is the way things are, and it is not the work of a supreme being. I will work for a better world, but not under the delusion that it was created by some supreme intelligence. That was the point, right? Not to prove how the world is or is not, but whether or not the way it is is the result of a supreme being? I thought you'd remember what the point of our argument was since you started the thread, but I'm glad to remind of the real point, instead of letting you continue with this ad hominem attack.

But it is the work of some Supreme Being. And this thread is my work. And there is nothing you can do about either of them, is there? I wonder how many more things you are powerless to protect, and to fix? Maybe everything? Yes, then you should be eternally negative. It fits.

[Tau]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

But it is the work of some Supreme Being. And this thread is my work. And there is nothing you can do about either of them, is there? I wonder how many more things you are powerless to protect, and to fix? Maybe everything? Yes, then you should be eternally negative. It fits.

That statement is not conducive to the greater good, surely you want to encourage, not make hasty judgements that seem a little churlish..

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Tau

That statement is not conducive to the greater good, surely you want to encourage, not make hasty judgements that seem a little churlish..

Why would I want to encourage laziness? He doesn't want to have to work for anything, he wants it all given, as a gift from God, completely undeserved. As if the universe, the earth, and his life are not enough?

And the thing is, what do any of these people know about the universe? They can't even figure out gravity and they have the nerve to question God's motives? They have an entire world and free will and they complain about not being rich?

Too many humans don't deserve half as much as they already have.

[Tau]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Why would I want to encourage laziness? He doesn't want to have to work for anything, he wants it all given, as a gift from God, completely undeserved. As if the universe, the earth, and his life are not enough?

And the thing is, what do any of these people know about the universe? They can't even figure out gravity and they have the nerve to question God's motives? They have an entire world and free will and they complain about not being rich? Too many don't deserve half as much as they already have.

Well the thing is you see I havent read all 89 plus pages and don't intend to so I couldn't possibly comment on content, what I can say is however is that you need honey to catch bees...if you get my meaning.

I am not particularly nice you see, i tend to think that this world might be a better place if humanity was wiped from it, it might be for the best, but I shall endeavor to do what I can to prevent it, what the hell it might turn out ok, for the greater good.

I remain your reluctant ally....

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Tau

Well the thing is you see I havent read all 89 plus pages and don't intend to so I couldn't possibly comment on content, what I can say is however is that you need honey to catch bees...if you get my meaning.

I am not particularly nice you see, i tend to think that this world might be a better place if humanity was wiped from it, it might be for the best, but I shall endeavor to do what I can to prevent it, what the hell it might turn out ok, for the greater good.

I remain your reluctant ally....

Sometimes honey also attracts bears.

If humanity was wiped from the earth then there would be no reason for the earth to exist. We're not supposed to be perfect. We're supposed to desire perfection and become willing to do everything possible to gain it. That does not happen when things are already that way.

[Tau]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

If humanity was wiped from the earth then there would be no reason for the earth to exist. We're not supposed to be perfect. We're supposed to desire perfection and become willing to do everything possible to gain it. That does not happen when things are already that way.

What?

You think humanity is the zenith of creation?

O dear o dear...I am sorry to say the human species is just a transitionary phase of eternal DNA.

But I concur with your secondary points..I think.

Humans are not the be all and end all, far from it.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Tau

What?

You think humanity is the zenith of creation?

O dear o dear...I am sorry to say the human species is just a transitionary phase of eternal DNA.

But I concur with your secondary points..I think.

Humans are not the be all and end all, far from it.

Yeah, right. They can't even figure out their own personalities, what makes them angry and what makes them sad. They look up at billions of galaxies and think it's all empty and write Star Trek stories where they have the supreme technology in the universe. If there was such a thing as a race for technology they lost it before they were even invented.

Humanity is just a waypoint. Still, the earth was not created just for bacteria, plant life, and animals, there has to be a sentient biological life form that attracts a soul. That is the main purpose of the life worlds.

[s2a]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

How trivial...

Ever the actor, without award, s2a turns a comedy into a drama and acts out a vain appeal to back track an already discussed and long ago buried era of thought. He avoids reading from the script and stumbles about in his attempt to create a play, his play, but he is not that original or intriguing to the playmaster, just a child who fingerpaints on your car windshield.

You're not the playmaster, I am, and you still haven't answered the original question. Do you know why you don't believe?

Pray thee then, O' "playmaster", why wouldst thee pretend that this reply does not exist, nor succinctly answer in full, your proposed inquiry?

Trivialities, you say?

Claims of any existent deity/god/supernatural entity; are the most ordinary, commonplace and substantively insignificant assertions afforded in a modern world. See: "trivial".

Your OP is legitimate, and deserving of considered reply.

Your deflections, denials, and inelegant dismissals...are not.

ASKED, and ANSWERED (as requested).

Next?

C'mon.

What you got, deep down inside...O' "playmaster" of kindergarten sandboxes?

Only a fool would presuppose to proclaim victory whilst in the midst of retreat and defeat.

"I pretend that your arguments and answers are invalid/unresponsive, therefore--tactically--I win!"

Fortunately...not everyone is as stupid and uniformed as you would wish then to be, nor compliant in choosing to "paint" then as childish and facile.

I will please myself to consistently reference and link my commentary/rebuttal (as tendered above), until you either respond/reply accordingly, or you die of natural causes...whichever comes first.

C'mon "playmaster"..."play" me and paint me the buffoon...in oils.

Or, just skulk away...in wistful (albeit faithful) righteous contemplation that you have tendered all you have to offer...and satisfy yourself that your vanity prevails...

[Super Universe]