Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[Wandered Off]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

I have no doubt that non-believer's have not had a powerful vision or some other moving event. They are supposed to be what they are.

In the OP, you made this assertion:

Now the key question, where would you rate your own ego as a reason and do you realize it's the main reason?

Are you saying that "they are supposed to be what they are" is the same as ego being the main reason?

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Dirty Penguin

You asked the question but don't like our answer. That's on you. I say there is no reason to believe. I also said you may have your reasons but your reasons aren't mine. You believe in a god....Which one? There seems to be thousands within the religions on the planet. Do you believe the gods of other religions to be just as valid of a deity as the one you speak of? If you don't can you share with us the "reason" why you believe this. If you do can you share with us the reason why you believe this??


On the surface I may ask...for "evidence" of "your" deity but I know you have none. Having no evidence is not a bad thing.....it just means you have no evidence.

There's no reason not to believe is an equal premise. Why does one choose either?

Which God do I believe in? How many names has water had in the entire history of man? How many names does it have now? Has the water changed because of the names?


My evidence of God is this. Close your eyes. Step outside at night, then open them. "Taddah!"

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Wandered Off

In the OP, you made this assertion:Are you saying that "they are supposed to be what they are" is the same as ego being the main reason?

Ego, personality, anger, jealousy... Every emotion possible can alter your view of something.

Have you ever known someone who was bitter and negative about everything? They feel that they have lost in life. It beat them and they have no more fight left inside. They don't see that the flowers on the side of the road are there just for them.

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

There's no reason not to believe is an equal premise. Why does one choose either?

If you have a reason to believe then great for you. But as you know....your last response below is not a convincing reason to me to believe in your deity. Note: I said not convincing to me. You may be able to sell to some one else.....

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Which God do I believe in? How many names has water had in the entire history of man? How many names does it have now? Has the water changed because of the names?

Yea....that answered my question.....

Originally Posted by Super Universe

My evidence of God is this. Close your eyes. Step outside at night, then open them. "Taddah!"

And all you will see are stars.......maybe the moon....maybe some clouds.....nothing more/nothing less....

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by Dirty Penguin

And all you will see are stars.......maybe the moon....maybe some clouds.....nothing more/nothing less....

Unless, of course, you see something more.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Dirty Penguin

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If you have a reason to believe then great for you. But as you know....your last response below is not a convincing reason to me to believe in your deity. Note: I said not convincing to me. You may be able to sell to some one else.....



Yea....that answered my question.....


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And all you will see are stars.......maybe the moon....maybe some clouds.....nothing more/nothing less....

I didn't convince you that God exists? Darn, and I wanted that so much so that, um, what exactly would would it do for the world if you believed?

I can sell the universe? Wow, how much do you think I can get for it?

All you will see in the night sky are stars? Take a block of stone. Most people just see stone but some might see a Pieta. Just stars, a moon, and clouds huh?

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

If a man says to people that my children are evil while I know that they are good, why can I not tell people what I know? Neither opinion proves a thing. People have to decide for themselves.

Decide for yourself. Whichever one you choose will not change the universe.

So, which is it: you know that your God exists, or you believe your God exists? In your example you say you know that your children are good, which means you're claiming to be right and someone else is wrong. That is the opposite of when you said that no one is right and no one is wrong in the case of God.

[BalanceFx]

Originally Posted by Super Universe