Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by s2a

Dude.

I'm fifty years old. Just 50. Only 50. Yet...50. So what?

Your continued evasion stands--as uncomfortably recorded--within this forum...all ad hominem allusions and insinuations not withstanding.

Let's recall for your own benefit that you instigated this thread, and proposed the OP question.

Again, for the third time, I tell you that your (prepositionally) challenging inquiry HAS been ANSWERED...and you have both deflected and ignored that consummately provided answer henceforth...most inelegantly.

Will you not answer, or can you not?

Inquiring minds and lurkers would like to know...

Whither shall we look to the validations of your proffered insights and wisdom?

In your accumulated years?

In your unique insights?

In your tactical implementations of evasion and escape?

Within some archaic texts of mixed metaphors and insistent claims of informed "knowledge?

What feeds your ego of certainty and insistence? What?

So far, the substance of you position seems to be rooted within the self-serving assertion that you "know better" than the rest of us wayward fools and children.

Perhaps that is so...perhaps not.

As Missourians are famously noted to say..."Don't tell me, show me."

C'mon, Mister "Super Universe"...enlighten us all with your sage wisdoms and enlightened truths begat of the years of experience and deliverance, available to only but the most aged and tested of we mortal humans...like you.

Be the prophet of unique revelation you were born to sell to the masses of the great unwashed, young and old alike.

Or, in the meantime, perhaps you might muster the temerity and courage to succinctly answer the lesser "trivialties" of those most discomfiting challenges upon the claims you espouse as truth, especially amongst us most severely unenlightened mortals?

I promise that I won't characterize you as "too old" to appreciate or understand five decades of life experience as exemplar for myself. I promise that I will only fairly criticize the value/merit of the arguments you present as being either supportive, or as validation of, the "truths" you care to share as being undeniable and universal in application and interpretation.

What's left to settle? What do you still want to debate? You don't have to believe. Get over it.

I "instigated" this thread? Hehe... So that is an instigation now?

From what I remember, no one answered the question sufficiently. All I got was "I see no reason to believe" as if you need absolute proof for everything when there are so many things that you trust (cars, homes, bridges, airplanes, gravity, food, people...) without knowing the full background of.

I would be a sorry sort if I felt that I had to validate myself to you. In the grand scheme of things, who are you? In the ungrand scheme of things, who are you? Zero is still zero regardless of the changing weather.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

None of us are right, none are wrong, we're just trying to relay our own view of the universe.

I'm glad you understand this. Now it would be nice if you'd put this point of view into practice.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by mball1297

I'm glad you understand this. Now it would be nice if you'd put this point of view into practice.

Put it into practice how? By allowing people to misrepresent God? Nope. Not gonna happen.

Maybe I can't change your view but your view isn't the only one.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Put it into practice how? By allowing people to misrepresent God? Nope. Not gonna happen.

Wouldn't that imply that you're right about God?

Maybe I can't change your view but your view isn't the only one.

You shouldn't be trying to change anyone's view if you believe the quote I took from you. You said that no one's right and no one's wrong, so why do you contradict that by claiming you're right?

[Super Universe]

A man eats rice for lunch and dinner every day. For him it provides sustenance. Another man tries to eat the rice but it makes him sick.

Is the rice good or bad?

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

A man eats rice for lunch and dinner every day. For him it provides sustenance. Another man tries to eat the rice but it makes him sick.

Is the rice good or bad?

Riiiight? Yes, everything is relative, which is why no one's right and no one's wrong, and yet you try to tell people that you're right and they're wrong. So, maybe you can explain why that is now.

[Wandered Off]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

From what I remember, no one answered the question sufficiently.

You mentioned earlier that you require "a powerful vision or some other moving event" to change your belief. If you lack that external stimulus, your belief won't change. Is ego responsible for this, or perhaps the lack of the necessary stimulus, or the recognition of it? Perhaps nonbelievers have not had the "powerful vision or some other moving event" required to alter beliefs. This is not ego alone, as the OP implies. Belief is a more complicated proposition than mere ego can account for.

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

From what I remember, no one answered the question sufficiently. All I got was "I see no reason to believe"

You asked the question but don't like our answer. That's on you. I say there is no reason to believe. I also said you may have your reasons but your reasons aren't mine. You believe in a god....Which one? There seems to be thousands within the religions on the planet. Do you believe the gods of other religions to be just as valid of a deity as the one you speak of? If you don't can you share with us the "reason" why you believe this. If you do can you share with us the reason why you believe this??

Originally Posted by Super Universe