Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

But it is the work of some Supreme Being. And this thread is my work. And there is nothing you can do about either of them, is there? I wonder how many more things you are powerless to protect, and to fix? Maybe everything? Yes, then you should be eternally negative. It fits.

But it isn't the work of a Supreme Being. There is nothing that leads conclusively to this belief. What is with the "you can't do anything about it" reasoning? I'm not trying to change anything, I'm trying to get you to understand that a supreme being is not a necessity in this universe, and some interpretations of such a thing are completely illogical and so unbelievable to me.

The argument "This is the way it is, and there's nothing you can do about it" is not only ridiculous and irrelevant, but also childish, illogical and unproductive.

[Darkness]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

No, but this guy thinks he is.

What a great way to evade a real debate.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Darkness

What a great way to evade a real debate.

Hehe, what real debate? If a ten year old child wants to pick a fight with a grown man, what should the grown man do?

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by mball1297

But it isn't the work of a Supreme Being. There is nothing that leads conclusively to this belief. What is with the "you can't do anything about it" reasoning? I'm not trying to change anything, I'm trying to get you to understand that a supreme being is not a necessity in this universe, and some interpretations of such a thing are completely illogical and so unbelievable to me.

The argument "This is the way it is, and there's nothing you can do about it" is not only ridiculous and irrelevant, but also childish, illogical and unproductive.

You're trying to get me to see that a Supreme Being is not a necessity?

So you live in a house that no one built?
You eat food that no one delivered?
You wear clothes that no one sewed?

They must just magically form themselves that way. How convenient for you? But now you want these things to also stop humans from doing bad things?

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Hehe, what real debate? If a ten year old child wants to pick a fight with a grown man, what should the grown man do?

I don't know why you want to pick a fight with me, but I'm trying to show you how grown-ups think and act. Once you stop acting like a ten-year-old maybe you'll understand.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by mball1297

I don't know why you want to pick a fight with me, but I'm trying to show you how grown-ups think and act. Once you stop acting like a ten-year-old maybe you'll understand.

Well if you'd slow down you would notice that the quote was about s2a, not you.

And I'm probably twice your age there bud.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

You're trying to get me to see that a Supreme Being is not a necessity?

So you live in a house that no one built?
You eat food that no one delivered?
You wear clothes that no one sewed?

They must just magically form themselves that way. How convenient for you? But now you want these things to also stop humans from doing bad things?

Again, you're confusing yourself. I don't want anything to stop humans from doing bad things. I'm fine with the universe as it is. You're also confusing the signs. When you stop thinking of the universe as a creation, you'll be able to see the other side. Think of it more like a stone chair than a house. A stone chair can work just as well as a cloth one. A stone chair can also be created by unintelligent forces of nature. The universe is like that stone chair, and can be created by unintelligent forces.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Well if you'd slow down you would notice that the quote was about s2a, not you.

And I'm probably twice your age there bud.

I know who it was to. I was responding because I thought it would be good who was the ten-year-old and who was the grown man in the analogy, since you seem to be confused about that.

And, physical age is not what I'm talking about.