Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[camanintx]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Can you prove a one horned horse has never been born?

Probably not, but unlike your God concept, one horned horses are logically consistent.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Darkness

No, but that is no reason for me to believe in it. It is the same with God.

It is not if I am worth of it or not. It is a matter of if you can do it or not.

Right, you need some benefit before you will give something your almighty approval.

It's not whether I can prove God to you or not, it's about you continuing to avoid answering the OP.

Why even post at all if you never intend to answer the OP?

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by camanintx

In effect, yes, it did do all of this since, like your God concept, it explains how the universe could come to be as it is. But the point is, unlike your God concept, the WFU is internally consistent.

If you think that mathematical equations are intelligent, then yes, the WFU is intelligent. I would consider you intelligent too, if I thought you actually understood any of it.

Since you apparently define God as the first cause of the universe, then yes, the WFU would qualify in that regard, but that doesn't mean that I worship it.

Speaking of disappointment, why are you so intent on worshiping something that doesn't even appear to be aware of your existence?

Ask him what? He's probably forgotten more about these subjects that either you or I know.

Hmm, except this Wave thingy doesn't explain how it could come to be because it doesn't explain how it . The wave thingy is internally consistent? Yeah, when you take out all the things that just don't fit it is. Try squeezing life out of it, and try getting it to explain gravity.

God isn't aware of my existence? Think again...

Hawking has forgotten more about gravity, dark energy, and the GUT than either you or I know? Well he probably hasn't forgotten, he just doesn't know the answers.

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

The original question hasn't been answered at all. Lack of evidence is not an honest answer unless a person requires absolute undoubtable proof for every other thing they believe in. They don't so, I'm still waiting.

Anyway, YOU did not answer the OP. Why would I address your questions when you haven't even attempted to answer the OP?

Just because you dislike and or disagree with the answers you claim it has not been answered?
Who's ego are we dealing with now?

Thank you.
You have actually answered many of my questions already.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

The original question hasn't been answered at all. Lack of evidence is not an honest answer unless a person requires absolute undoubtable proof for every other thing they believe in. They don't so, I'm still waiting.

Anyway, YOU did not answer the OP. Why would I address your questions when you haven't even attempted to answer the OP?

As I said earlier, like many apologists, Super has divided all knowledge into two categories: absolute proof (hardly ever happens) and no clue (everything else.) Therefore you're justified in believing any old thing, even the Urantia book, because after all you believe other things without absolute proof. In reality knowledge is not binary; there is a range of certainty, from highly unlikely by no clue through possible to probably to highly likely to virtually certain. I believe in things that are highly likely, but not those that are highly unlikely, although I am not virtually certain of either. Antarctica--virtually certain. Pluto--highly likely. God--IMO highly unlikely, or at best no clue. Super is ignoring this point, because it obliterates his entire annoying, arrogant argument.

[Darkness]

This is me answering the OP:

Originally Posted by Super Universe

What is the reason you don't believe in God? Or the reason you're not absolutely positively sure God exists?

I see no evidence for God's existence.

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Now the key question, where would you rate your own ego as a reason and do you realize it's the main reason?

Ego has nothing to do with it. In fact, you have more ego than me on this matter. You pronounce ("God exists") while I "humble" say ("I do not believe God exists, but I could be wrong").

Originally Posted by Autodidact

I believe in things that are highly likely, but not those that are highly unlikely, although I am not virtually certain of either. Antarctica--virtually certain. Pluto--highly likely. God--IMO highly unlikely, or at best no clue. Super is ignoring this point, because it obliterates his entire annoying, arrogant argument.

That is a great point autodidact. For example, the odds of George Bush being non-existent are highly unlikely. Faking George Bush's existence makes no sense and is totally uncomparable to the existence of God. Sure I believe in George Bush. People have seen George Bush and have taken pictures of him. You can say, "Well, look at all the encounters people had with God." Ah, but there is one fatal flaw. Everybody's personal experience of the One True God is different. God is Yahweh... no He is Jesus... no He is Allah... no He is Brahman... no He is the Universal Father on the Isle of Paradise. George Bush is George Bush. We don't have different people proclaiming, George Bush is Black... no George Bush is Asian... George Bush is an Arab. Super Universe is playing games to make it seem like it is illogical to not believe in God and believe Russia is a real country.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Darkness

This is me answering the OP:



I see no evidence for God's existence.



Ego has nothing to do with it. In fact, you have more ego than me on this matter. You pronounce ("God exists") while I "humble" say ("I do not believe God exists, but I could be wrong").



That is a great point autodidact. For example, the odds of George Bush being non-existent are highly unlikely. Faking George Bush's existence makes no sense and is totally uncomparable to the existence of God. Sure I believe in George Bush. People have seen George Bush and have taken pictures of him. You can say, "Well, look at all the encounters people had with God." Ah, but there is one fatal flaw. Everybody's personal experience of the One True God is different. God is Yahweh... no He is Jesus... no He is Allah... no He is Brahman... no He is the Universal Father on the Isle of Paradise. George Bush is George Bush. We don't have different people proclaiming, George Bush is Black... no George Bush is Asian... George Bush is an Arab. Super Universe is playing games to make it seem like it is illogical to not believe in God and believe Russia is a real country.

Sigh...

I have more ego than you on this matter? I have quite the ego at times but it definately has it's place in line behind many other things.

And I have news for you, God is Yahweh and Jesus and Brahma and the Universal
Father in heaven and more.

Instead of simply answering the OP you respond with questions four or five times and then finally you just repeat the same answer as everyone else. Seems like you are the one who is playing games.

[Darkness]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Instead of simply answering the OP you respond with questions four or five times and then finally you just repeat the same answer as everyone else. Seems like you are the one who is playing games.

I tried answering the OP but that didn't satisfy you. My first post in this thread was and I quote:

Originally Posted by Darkness

I do not believe in God because I see no positive evidence of His existence. I do not deny the existence of God.

Originally Posted by Super Universe

And I have news for you, God is Yahweh and Jesus and Brahma and the Universal Father in heaven and more.

I take it then you believe God murdered innumerable people in Egypt, that God told the Israelites to slaughter the inhabitants of Palestine, and that God kills people for picking up sticks on the Sabbath?