Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by contemplative

The reason why God puts us through hardships in life is because he is testing our faith. God doens't want anyone of us to suffer because he created us. Sometimes, putting us through hard times in life is his way of letting us see that the only way we can survive is if we walk with him, not against him. So if someone doesn't belive because God is putting them through alot of negative situations, then they are failing his test. But for many people, the meaning behind God and how he works just can't be clarified as I have just done. So it's not that it's their ego that keeps them from believing, but it's just that they're confused.

And of course, you can't discount that other possibility, which is that there is no such thing.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by contemplative

The reason why God puts us through hardships in life is because he is testing our faith. God doens't want anyone of us to suffer because he created us. Sometimes, putting us through hard times in life is his way of letting us see that the only way we can survive is if we walk with him, not against him. So if someone doesn't belive because God is putting them through alot of negative situations, then they are failing his test. But for many people, the meaning behind God and how he works just can't be clarified as I have just done. So it's not that it's their ego that keeps them from believing, but it's just that they're confused.

Dear miss, I know you are just repeating what you've been told but God does not test us, we test ourselves. Each of us chose to come here.

God does not harm us, we harm each other. God does not become jealous, He created the universe, there is nothing He could possibly be jealous of. God does not torture us, disease naturally accompanies DNA/RNA beings. And most important of all, God does not kill us or any other living thing regardless of what we do or believe.

Your view is that God is the direct cause of certain events rather than taking responsibility for your own actions and beliefs.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

O.K., so what you're saying is that you have absolutely no basis for your groundless assertions, and therefore they should be treated as having no merit? Because you don't expect us to accept things just on your say-so, right? After all, you're just some anonymous person on the internet, just like me. I don't expect people to accept what I say without some support or cite, do you?

No, what I said was "Why would I", meaning: Why would I give in to your demands?
What you want is control but you can't have it. You can't have it because you haven't earned it and you don't want to earn it, you want to take it.

Sorry...

You're just going to have to figure it all out on your own.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

Well, I don't know if I would use the word, "afraid." I try to be as right as I can; don't you?

Sigh... Once again, trying to exercise control.

You might not use the word 'afraid' because you don't have any power to force others to speak as you would.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

No, what I said was "Why would I", meaning: Why would I give in to your demands?
What you want is control but you can't have it. You can't have it because you haven't earned it and you don't want to earn it, you want to take it.

Sorry...

Don't do anything you don't want to, Super. We can all draw our own conclusions as to the merits of your claims..

You're just going to have to figure it out all on your own.

Too late; I already did. There is no God.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Sigh... Once again, trying to exercise control.

You might not use the word 'afraid' because you don't have any power to force others to speak as you would.

Do you have some kind of control issues? I speak only for myself. I'm not trying to control you, Super. I don't consider myself to be afraid. I'm just trying to use my intellect to be as right as I can. If you are acting out of fear, or don't care whether you're right or wrong, feel free to speak up for yourself.

[Darkness]

I do not believe in God because I see no positive evidence of His existence. I do not deny the existence of God.

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Your view is that God is the direct cause of certain events rather than taking responsibility for your own actions and beliefs.

Do you believe in a Deterministic Universe?

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Darkness

I do not believe in God because I see no positive evidence of His existence. I do not deny the existence of God.



Do you believe in a Deterministic Universe?

Ah, the lack of evidence argument once again even though it is not a cause of your belief just an outcome of the real reason you don't believe.

And, once again, my argument is that you believe in all kinds of things (people, places, theories) that you have no direct experience with, you simply trust what others tell you or you trust what you have read.

So why is God different?

I believe that there are plans for certain places in the universe, for instance, the Earth. It is going to evolve. Now, individuals also have free will to do as they please.

If an individual had the power to destroy the Earth they very well could before other powerful individuals could stop it. God will not interfere in your free will choice regardless of what the consequences are because there is no real harm that you can do. The Earth is one in trillions.

Also God will not interfere because it would violate the whole purpose of this universe in the first place, free will.