Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[Panda]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

I have more evidence than you do. You have nothing to support your claim that God didn't create it. Where's your real proof of anything? How about it?

Where is it?!?!?! How many times do we have to ask and never once have you given a shred of evidence so no you have less evidence than me as you have none at all stop pretending you do.

Originally Posted by Super Universe

How logical is disbelieving in something that can be proven? You just have to... understand it. Hmm, understand? Figure it out? Kind of sounds like the way the rest of the universe works, doesn't it?

Until then, you won't believe because... you can't.

I guess you can't accept reality oh well, maybe one day you will be able to accept it but just now you obviously don't have the ability to accept it. Maybe once you have grown and learn something about the universe you will be able to understand it, until then you won't.

[UnTheist]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Ah, you have to have a reason to believe in God? You need a benefit, a return? And people ask what ego has to do with it?

Where did you get that from!? You must love making assumptions, I see them all over this thread

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

Except when it isn't.

[/size] In that case your proof is missing a step. 1. The universe exists. 2. ____________ 3. Therefore, God exists.
That would be you. Why don't you believe in all the other Gods? Why don't you believe in fairies, or unicorns, or the invisible dragon in my garage? It's not that I believe something without proof, it's that I don't believe in something (God) without evidence.

Except when it isn't? Why do you think the universe should abide by your expectations of what things should be like or what things should happen?

Why don't I believe in all the other gods? What other gods?

Why don't I believe in fairies, unicorns, and invisible dragons? You never know...

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

Got it, and thank you for definitively proving that God does not exist by posting a picture of nothing.

Nothing? Uh, look again...

[Storm]

Originally Posted by rasor

If your god can evolve that means he/she/it wasn't perfect in the first place,which means he/she/it isn't a god.

1) Perfection is not a prerequisite for all God concepts

2) Perfection, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

Would you be satisfied with mere evidence?


Notice any difference between that and your picture of God? Here, want some more?

Evidence? Uhh, well which one is it? The first one, the second one, the third one with the little red X?

Why doesn't it always look the same? How is it possible that it changes? Is it a changeling or some other mythological thing?

I don't understand how you can believe in something that is never exactly the same?

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

I have never observed an intelligence without a brain, have you? I think natural laws and processes explain most of it, and look forward to learning about the rest.

Yes. I think atoms joining together is pretty darned intelligent but I wouldn't consider it having a brain.

I think plants sensing the suns rays is pretty darned intelligent, not sure if there's some part of a plant that you would call the brain though.

Matter changing into energy is quite intelligent, so much that we are still trying to understand it.

Rain is pretty darned intelligent. Sunshine. Night and day. The sun and moon.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

So you're claiming that these things are God?

= God?
So God = everything? Or the first cause, which?

No, Super, it's your definition. I imposed no requirements, just asked you to define your terms. So God is the first cause, and people talking in a crowded bar, and can be perceived as a picture of nothing, and can be perceived with the senses?

If God = everything, then why need a word for God?

I can see children. Can I see God, apart from children?

Yes, these things are God.

God = everything? Yep.

First Cause is one definition of God. One of an inumerable amount.

If God is everything then why need a word for God? So you know what I'm talking about. If I chose the title of this thread to be "Do you know why you don't believe in everything" the meaning would be different.


Can you see God apart from children. Yes, look at a flower instead.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

So you're an agnostic then?

I didn't say "I".