Do You Know Why You Don't Believe? (beliefs, experience, atheist)

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

Sadly, the rest of your blather is not worthy of a detailed response.

PS: Trust me, S_U we are most definitely NOT in the same boat, lol. You are welcome to believe whatever you must, however.

Why the insulting reply? Listen, you choose to respond. You could have easily ignored this entire topic but instead you come in and attempt to insult me. Move along now angry little boy.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by MidnightBlue

Thank you for your unsolicited and uninformed analysis of my thought processes. It tells me all I need to know about your capacity for a reasonable discussion, which makes any reply to your other questions unnecessary and pointless.

Great, another angry and completely unnecessary reply. Since you obviously can't join the discussion in an intelligent manner, then don't respond at all!

People are so afraid to talk about themselves. I wonder why?

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Buttercup

Go back and look at your OP. And there you have your answer as to why I replied. You asked.

Super U.....you're right in that we are all here trying to find our own way. But, don't you see why some of us are turned off to a definitive definition of God? You think your version is correct, the Christians think their version is correct, Muslims think they hold the key to truth as do a myriad of other religions. Can't you see that everyone tells us what God is "right"? What version of God is "true"?

How can anyone know?

How can anyone know? It is difficult to see the truth amidst all the lies told for centuries. I recommend using logic.

An example:
What is a fireball from heaven? A meteor. Meteor's hit the earth all the time but now we don't think of them as "heaven sent" so likely, the ancient priests were wrong and God did not send them.

If a storm floods your town tomorrow, would people blame God? Most would not, it's just a storm, it happens. So, likely God did not send any of the storms, or plagues, or killing, that He was blamed for in the bible either.

Also, it's not required, or even wished, that you believe in God at this time. Live your life as you wish. Hopefully you have adopted strict morals and set them into stone. If so, you will be just fine. You may even beat me to the finish line.

[w00t]

SU calm down it isn't good for your BP, this is only a forum after all and not important in the scheme of things!

Having been brought up as a pentecostalist I see all too clearly the flaws in their concept of God, so I kicked it into touch an devised my own way of looking at life, faith etc!

[doppelgänger]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Now the key question, where would you rate your own ego as a reason and do you realize it's the main reason?

Ego is actually the reason for believing rather than non-believing. "God" imagined as "Creator" is a shadow cast by the "God"-observer's self-consciousness. Everyone's "God" bears an uncanny resemblance to themselves . . . but if horses had gods, they'd look like horses.

As far an non-belief goes, I'd like to hear someone clearly define what it is I'm supposedly not believing in . . . That would be the threshold question.

Is "God" a thing? If so, what kind of thing? If not, what sense does it make to talk about the "existence" of a non-thing?

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by doppelgänger

Ego is actually the reason for believing rather than non-believing. "God" imagined as "Creator" is a shadow cast by the "God"-observer's self-consciousness. Everyone's "God" bears an uncanny resemblance to themselves . . . but if horses had gods, they'd look like horses.

As far an non-belief goes, I'd like to hear someone clearly define what it is I'm supposedly not believing in . . . That would be the threshold question.

Is "God" a thing? If so, what kind of thing? If not, what sense does it make to talk about the "existence" of a non-thing?

So you are saying that a lack of self esteem is the reason people believe in God? That they must be afraid of everything and so they are comforted by imagining an all powerful and loving Creator?

I can understand this reasoning. There is some logic to it.

But you didn't answer the OP.

[doppelgänger]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

So you are saying that a lack of self esteem is the reason people believe in God?

No. Where'd you get that idea? The reason is the tendency for confusing the signs for the thing signified.

As for the OP, as I explained, there are threshold questions to answering. I don't know right now what you think it is that I'm supposedly not believing in.

Check out the questions I asked in my previous post.

[Yes Man]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

What is the reason you don't believe in God? Or the reason you're not absolutely positively sure God exists?

Because I have seen no hard evidence proving that such a being would exist presently.

I'd guess the number one reason is because people see bad things happening all around them and can't understand why God would allow it to happen.

How would you rate the other reasons not to believe?

How would I rate them? No argument I have heard from anyone has made me completely believe in a God. And no argument has swayed me to think that there is absolutely, positively no way that there was a Divine Creator. In other words arguments are arguments, not fact.

Now the key question, where would you rate your own ego as a reason and do you realize it's the main reason?

As I said above, the "main" reason I don't believe in God is because there is no way that you can prove to me that a God exists right now. Maybe a God did exist at one time, but maybe not.